Should I bother getting my RPAL?

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Sorry if this topic has been covered but I did a quick search and found nothing.

So I'm wondering if I should bother getting my RPAL. I've got my PAL and I'm unclear as to what other "civil liberties" I give up when applying for a RPAL. Is it true for example that the CFO can show up at your door unannounced and request to see your storage set-up etc?

I had an appointement to pass my RPAL in November but ended cancelling. If I had know about all the BS and potential legal hazards associated with owning firearms I'm not even sure I would have gotten my PAL license. V:I: :)

Anything I should know before commiting?

Thanks
 
If you enjoy firearms, you should get your RPAL for several reasons. Firstly: get it because you can. Secondly: if you find a restricted firearm that you like, you can purchase it without months of waiting for courses and paperwork. Thirdly: Who actually knows if or when the Restricted License becomes way of the 12(2) and 12(6)? If you already have your license, you should continue to have it when no more are being issued.

And lastly, Stand up and be counted. The fact that so many firearm owners have been hiding under the radar since licensing and registration came out, makes us appear to be a quarter of the numbers that we actually are. If people had stood up and been counted from the beginning, we would be close to a quarter of the voting population, and we would not have this registry and license bullsh*t that we have now.


Do the right thing. Be a Man. Real Men have their restricted class License (RPAL)
 
That's right. Get your restricted, join a range, acquire an ATT and you are on the way to funland. This is a very good time for Canadian firearms enthusiasts, especially for those who enjoy restricted firearms.
 
I recommend to everybody to get an R-PAL even if there is currently no interest in hand guns.

It's easier to do it all at once and be done with it. Many I know went back years later to do the R-PAL course. I initially got licensed after arriving in Canada because i wanted to get back into hunting. Now though I have a Black Badge and IPSC membership. Happens to many of us, handguns are fun.

It's also a political message in support of your fellow nutz. The more R-PAL holders out there the better.
 
DirtyCZ said:
Sorry if this topic has been covered but I did a quick search and found nothing.

So I'm wondering if I should bother getting my RPAL. I've got my PAL and I'm unclear as to what other "civil liberties" I give up when applying for a RPAL. Is it true for example that the CFO can show up at your door unannounced and request to see your storage set-up etc?

I had an appointement to pass my RPAL in November but ended cancelling. If I had know about all the BS and potential legal hazards associated with owning firearms I'm not even sure I would have gotten my PAL license. V:I: :)

Anything I should know before commiting?

Thanks
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If you have a PAL the RCMP already have your address on file stating you are a firearms owner. I was told when I upgraded to my RPAL that as soon as they type your licence plate # into there system (regarding traffic stop) they know you have licence to possess firearms.
Honestly, what are the chances the RCMP / Police to have the time and man power to randomly come knock on your door and check the storage of your firearms. I believe if you classify yourself as a collector, there maybe a greater chance of a search.
In the end, if you store your firearms properly, you have nothing to worry about....;)

Get your RPAL, from what im seeing, it opens up a whole new world of firearms to spend your hard earned money on....:D
And, as altaberg said, the more RPAL holders the better.
 
Get it. For sure. I second the above points.

And besides unless you are living a lifestyle where you would want the RCMP to show up at your house unexpectedly you have nothing to worry about.
 
Don't get it!

Also go turn in your current PAL!

We need people with balls to fight the anti's, not easily scared, quick to give up, sheep, who will turn over with the slightest bit of pressure from the gov. and anti's.

Things are gonna get worse soon enough, despite the small victory with the LGR.

If you have that attitude you have now, just wait.
 
I always suggest to people to get both. If you're going through the trouble to get your PAL then you're going to have to go through it all over again if you later decide you want to get into pistols. It's one weekend and it's done... get them both at once.
 
mlehtovaara said:
Don't get it!

Also go turn in your current PAL!

We need people with balls to fight the anti's, not easily scared, quick to give up, sheep, who will turn over with the slightest bit of pressure from the gov. and anti's.

Things are gonna get worse soon enough, despite the small victory with the LGR.

If you have that attitude you have now, just wait.
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Hmmm, you should be a motivational speaker. :rolleyes:
What we don't need is cynical pesimists who s**t on people for asking a question.
Some on this forum can rant like the above and it works, others just sound like asshats with attitude problems. Go figure eh....

To the op, if you have your pal you're already on the dark side. If they come for our restricted guns, you and your non-restricted are next anyways.
 
considering when you're writing your pal, you CAN write them together, and it takes all of an extra 10 minutes provided you READ THE QUESTIONS AND NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE in the WORDING , you'd be foolish not to-that way you don't have to write it 2x
 
altaberg said:
I recommend to everybody to get an R-PAL even if there is currently no interest in hand guns.

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thats what i did...15 years ago... then when i picked up the interest again, Miramichi told me that i could take my certificate and throw it away.

still , i have gone back and get it since i wanted a restricted. i still would have gotten it no matter what... when i got my course back, i found the process to be extremely long.... time never flies fast when you are waiting for something.
 
mlehtovaara said:
Don't get it!

Also go turn in your current PAL!

We need people with balls to fight the anti's, not easily scared, quick to give up, sheep, who will turn over with the slightest bit of pressure from the gov. and anti's.

Things are gonna get worse soon enough, despite the small victory with the LGR.

If you have that attitude you have now, just wait.
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f:P:
 
DirtyCZ said:
Sorry if this topic has been covered but I did a quick search and found nothing.

So I'm wondering if I should bother getting my RPAL. I've got my PAL and I'm unclear as to what other "civil liberties" I give up when applying for a RPAL. Is it true for example that the CFO can show up at your door unannounced and request to see your storage set-up etc?

I had an appointement to pass my RPAL in November but ended cancelling. If I had know about all the BS and potential legal hazards associated with owning firearms I'm not even sure I would have gotten my PAL license. V:I: :)

Anything I should know before commiting?

Thanks
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Bolded is THE purpose of the firearms act. Make it so onerous that people won't jump through the hoops.

YES...get your Rpal. How come you don't already have it ? ( :) )

As to inspections, don't worry about it. There are stipulations on how the inspection can be done, and really, unless there's an issue police don't have quite that much time on their hands (don't start quoting articles about Mr. Barnes' case - I'm aware)

From the firearms act

101. In sections 102 to 105, “inspector”
means a firearms officer and includes, in respect
of a province, a member of a class of individuals
designated by the provincial minister.

Inspection 102. (1) Subject to section 104, for the purpose of ensuring compliance with this Act and the regulations, an inspector may at any reasonable time enter and inspect any place where the
inspector believes on reasonable grounds there is a gun collection or a record in relation to a gun collection or any place in which the inspector believes on reasonable grounds there is a prohibited firearm or there are more than 10 firearms and may.................

Heavily edited for relevance to OP's question
 
DirtyCZ said:
Sorry if this topic has been covered but I did a quick search and found nothing.

So I'm wondering if I should bother getting my RPAL. I've got my PAL and I'm unclear as to what other "civil liberties" I give up when applying for a RPAL. Is it true for example that the CFO can show up at your door unannounced and request to see your storage set-up etc?

I had an appointement to pass my RPAL in November but ended cancelling. If I had know about all the BS and potential legal hazards associated with owning firearms I'm not even sure I would have gotten my PAL license. V:I: :)

Anything I should know before commiting?

Thanks
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Go ahead and get it.

As for the inspections, I was told that if they show up unannounced, you can tell them to politely hit the road and call you to arrange a time that's suitable for you and them for the inspection.
 
We aren't collectivist tools. I am an individual who has a license for my own reasons and purposes. I don't have a license to antagonize the gun control crowd. If that's the reason for your license, then maybe the OP isn't the sheep.

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mlehtovaara said:
We need people with balls to fight the anti's, not easily scared, quick to give up, sheep, who will turn over with the slightest bit of pressure from the gov. and anti's.
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Yogi05 said:
Bolded is THE purpose of the firearms act. Make it so onerous that people won't jump through the hoops.

YES...get your Rpal. How come you don't already have it ? ( :) )

As to inspections, don't worry about it. There are stipulations on how the inspection can be done, and really, unless there's an issue police don't have quite that much time on their hands (don't start quoting articles about Mr. Barnes' case - I'm aware)

From the firearms act

101. In sections 102 to 105, “inspector”
means a firearms officer and includes, in respect
of a province, a member of a class of individuals
designated by the provincial minister.

Inspection 102. (1) Subject to section 104, for the purpose of ensuring compliance with this Act and the regulations, an inspector may at any reasonable time enter and inspect any place where the
inspector believes on reasonable grounds there is a gun collection or a record in relation to a gun collection or any place in which the inspector believes on reasonable grounds there is a prohibited firearm or there are more than 10 firearms and may.................

Heavily edited for relevance to OP's question
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while that may have been the intention of the wording of the act, it's more or less a "gatekeeper" that is a paper tiger wjen you actually do the exam- anyone that knows a barrel from a buttstock can pass it, with a little studying
 
I have friends, quiet abit older then me (mid fifties) who have a "fear" of even appllying for an RPAL. When I told them mine is in the mail they were horrifyed, and stared at me blankly when I asked them to get theres.

I believe there is a misperception of what all is entailed for possessing an RPAL. It doesnt "mark you" anymore then a PAL. It doesnt make you a criminal. It opens a door to a unique market of firearms to purchase and enjoy.

:ar15:
 
9x19p said:
Hmmm, you should be a motivational speaker. :rolleyes:
What we don't need is cynical pesimists who s**t on people for asking a question.
Some on this forum can rant like the above and it works, others just sound like asshats with attitude problems. Go figure eh....

To the op, if you have your pal you're already on the dark side. If they come for our restricted guns, you and your non-restricted are next anyways.
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You know what, I will apologize.

I am just getting sick of this type of ####.

The latest thread by another member here about turning in all of his, and giving up just put me over the edge.

Then the next morning I wake up and login to find this thread.

Apologies to the OP.

But you really have no idea. Their are members here who have been put through alot, and you are complaining about what?

We have it easy compared to some.
 
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