So I have a new gun itch. Essentially, I want a classic all-steel 9mm pistol that is not a Hi-Power or 1911 (already got those) and CZ-75 SP-01 seems to fit the bill. Any reason why I should not buy one? Is it a reliable gun? As you can probably guess, I don't have much experience with CZ products.
Should I buy a CZ-75 SP-01?
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CZ products are awesome, have 2. the last 4ever and probably one of the best price/quality ratio out there.
The only drawback is that parts are not as easy to get compared to the big brand (In Canada) But the basic stuff (mags) can easily be purchased here
The SP-01 is a great hand gun, and an excellent value for the price. You will be amazed at how well it will fit your hand. The single drawback is the trigger action but this is easily fixed and if you get the Shadow, it's basically done for you. It's also a great IPSC tool and parts are easily available from a number of sources, although mostly in the US. After 5,000 rnds on my SP-01 it shoots smoothly and accurately. Highly recommended.
I have SP-01 tactical and SP-01 Shadow. From the two, I would recommend
Tactical. Shadow has a very light trigger, too light if you are used to military
style, harder triggers. The sights on Shadow are not very good. They
overshoot 2" too high. A guy I know says his overshoots 4" too high.
So you have to compensate and if you are used to aligning sights into one
horizontal line, that will quickly become a problem.
Tactical feels better, it feels like a much stronger gun. I shoot Tactical much
better than I shoot Shadow due to the Shadow's sight picture problems.
SP-01 is a heavy gun. Try it in your hands. I know it is not the best
fit for most people.
If you buy Tactical, get the version with a decoker.
I picked SP-01 instead of any Sig model because it just fits better in MY
hands. I've tried many Sig models before deciding on SP-01.
Before I bought my 75B, I went over different gun store and handled different guns. At range I asked people to try their gun and I got hooked with a 75-pre B. I then went over different brand name gun forum. CZ was highly respect buy every different brand name forum. I knew I won't chose a wrong pick. I couldn't say enough good thing about my 75B. SP 01 is a better new design of 75B.
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After years of shooting polymer-framed pistols I picked up an SP01 in August off the EE--I was also feeling the need to return to an all-steel pistol. I had a early CZ75 in the '80's and I liked it OK but the sights were too small and the trigger too mushy for my liking--the newer CZ's have fixed both these issues (I especially like the Meprolight sights on the SP01).
The trigger pull on the SP01 was nice and crisp without any creep or grittiness--it might have been because it already had 500 rounds or so though it to work it in a bit. I've fired about 400 rounds myself through it (all Winchester 147 grain) with no problems. For me, I find a real accuracy improvement at the longer distances (say, 30m to 50m)...I think the heavier weight and good trigger help here.
The trigger pull on the SP01 was nice and crisp without any creep or grittiness--it might have been because it already had 500 rounds or so though it to work it in a bit. I've fired about 400 rounds myself through it (all Winchester 147 grain) with no problems. For me, I find a real accuracy improvement at the longer distances (say, 30m to 50m)...I think the heavier weight and good trigger help here.
Why does it have to have steel frame? If you already have 2 steel guns, why not try alloy? It’s still metal but a bit lighter than steel.
I though about getting SP-01 myself about a year or two ago, but went another gun instead… It seems some CZ don’t work right out of the box; seen a number of posts by people complaining about reliability problems. Ligher springs help in some cases.
Thanks for the responses, guys.
Wink:
I'd get the Shadow but I can't stand fiber optic sights and would much rather have meprolights. Plus, I don't think the Shadow is available with a de-cocker.
af_newbie:
Funny that you mention Sig. My original intention was to get a 226ST, but after shooting one, I didn't like the way it felt in my hand. Not to mention, it costs around $400-500 more.
MasterG:
My experience with an older CZ-75 was similar to yours. Small military-style sights didn't do much for the sight picture. It's good to know that CZ has addressed the problem.
P.S. A few more questions. Does the trigger pull smooth out over time or do these guns (non-Shadow versions) require a trigger job? I tried a regular CZ-75 at a gun store recently and the trigger pull was long and very gritty.
Also, how much does the Tactical retail for? Who has the cheapest price on these guns?
Wink:
I'd get the Shadow but I can't stand fiber optic sights and would much rather have meprolights. Plus, I don't think the Shadow is available with a de-cocker.
af_newbie:
Funny that you mention Sig. My original intention was to get a 226ST, but after shooting one, I didn't like the way it felt in my hand. Not to mention, it costs around $400-500 more.
MasterG:
My experience with an older CZ-75 was similar to yours. Small military-style sights didn't do much for the sight picture. It's good to know that CZ has addressed the problem.
P.S. A few more questions. Does the trigger pull smooth out over time or do these guns (non-Shadow versions) require a trigger job? I tried a regular CZ-75 at a gun store recently and the trigger pull was long and very gritty.
Also, how much does the Tactical retail for? Who has the cheapest price on these guns?
Shadow in SA (cocked) is a crisp break with a *little bit* of takeup before the pull, and a fairly light pull. DA is longer and stiffer. Only 500ish rds thru mine so far, another couple hundred dry-fire pulls.
It's my first pistol, and I like it a lot. The weight - it is indeed heavy - reduces recoil and makes 2nd shot recovery a breeze.
It's my first pistol, and I like it a lot. The weight - it is indeed heavy - reduces recoil and makes 2nd shot recovery a breeze.
I'm not a fan of alloy guns. The most common type of failure with aluminum-frame pistols is cracking in the rail area. Aluminum may be a metal, but it's a much softer metal than steel. The harder steel slide riding on the softer aluminum frame beats up the gun over time. Even polymer guns are stronger, because the slide is riding on steel inserts. That's one of the reasons why alloy-frame guns are being quickly phased out in favor of plastic pistols.Why does it have to have steel frame? If you already have 2 steel guns, why not try alloy? It’s still metal but a bit lighter than steel.
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Sigs and Berettas are two of the best service pistols out there and of course both are alloy framed. There are 92's and 226's with 100K+ rounds thu them... I wouldn't worry about it.
Plus since you don't relaod you probably can't afford to brake an alloy gun anyway
There are 92's and 226's with 100K+ rounds thu them... I wouldn't worry about it.Plus since you don't relaod you probably can't afford to brake an alloy gun anyway
Sig and Beretta are pretty much the only popular alloy guns out there and both of these companies have recently jumped on the polymer bandwagon. That should tell you something. I'm willing to bet that within the next ten years, 92 and P22x series guns will be history.Sigs and Berettas are two of the best service pistols out there and of course both are alloy framed.
I wouldn't make that assumptionPlus since you don't relaod you probably can't afford to brake an alloy gun anyway
Anyways, I don't want to turn this thread into a polymer vs. alloy vs. steel debate. I'd just like to get some opinions on the SP-01.
I have a late 80's CZ -75 and love it. Because I was planning on doing a bit of target work with it, I had the original sights replaced with a set of Millet sights where the rear is adjustable, and the front is somewhat higher profile. Still drew real nice from a "Summer Special" style holster. Function was flawless. VERRRRY accurate.
My problem NOW is, I smashed the high capacity mags (15 round) and never bought any 10 round ones. Anybody know where I can purchase some to fit the old model 75?
My problem NOW is, I smashed the high capacity mags (15 round) and never bought any 10 round ones. Anybody know where I can purchase some to fit the old model 75?
Sig and Beretta are pretty much the only popular alloy guns out there and both of these companies have recently jumped on the polymer bandwagon. That should tell you something. I'm willing to bet that within the next ten years, 92 and P22x series guns will be history.
I wouldn't make that assumption
Anyways, I don't want to turn this thread into a polymer vs. alloy vs. steel debate. I'd just like to get some opinions on the SP-01.
The absolutely, positively, single, sole reason that we see poly/plastic frame pistols these days it that they are without a doubt, the cheapest manufacturing process available to gun companies which allows for a much higher profit margin. No doubt everyone is jumping on the bandwagon.......
