Should I buy a NEA AR?

Yeah, it looks like blaxsun is a little mixed up… I don’t believe anyone has shown that the same practices of shilling and thread deleting as we saw on CGN happened on any other forum… albeit the assertion that the NZ and SA guns had no problems and we were being too picky or making mountains out of ant hills, so to say, is not entirely true either… nevertheless the brands of ARs available in those countries appear to be of a lower quality than the ones in North America, at least last I checked… the assumption could be easily made that many of us expected and still expect a better product than the consumers in NZ or SA…

Just for the record, we can get most brands of ARs here, although some are easier to obtain than others. Price may be one valid factor for apparent satisfaction with NEA in NZ though. When NEA first appeared they were priced at roughly a $1000 less than the cheapest other retail price on an AR (including Norcs). That price difference has changed a lot, and prices of other rifles have dropped (a lot in some cases to match NEA prices), but even with that price drop for other brands, and while NEA might not be as desirable as a top tier rifle, they seem to be pretty well received here.
 
Just for the record, we can get most brands of ARs here, although some are easier to obtain than others. Price may be one valid factor for apparent satisfaction with NEA in NZ though. When NEA first appeared they were priced at roughly a $1000 less than the cheapest other retail price on an AR (including Norcs). That price difference has changed a lot, and prices of other rifles have dropped (a lot in some cases to match NEA prices), but even with that price drop for other brands, and while NEA might not be as desirable as a top tier rifle, they seem to be pretty well received here.

I will admit, I was mostly looking at SA… but as per your own comments towards the NEA you viewed it as a hunting/bush gun, which is something we can not do in Canada… aside from the NEAs extremely competitive price as you said, it is another factor that has to be taken into account when comparing the two markets… we only have ARs as safe queens or range toys…
 
Just for the record, we can get most brands of ARs here, although some are easier to obtain than others. Price may be one valid factor for apparent satisfaction with NEA in NZ though. When NEA first appeared they were priced at roughly a $1000 less than the cheapest other retail price on an AR (including Norcs). That price difference has changed a lot, and prices of other rifles have dropped (a lot in some cases to match NEA prices), but even with that price drop for other brands, and while NEA might not be as desirable as a top tier rifle, they seem to be pretty well received here.

UH OH. So What you are saying is that the general reception is that NEA rifles are not complete peices of ****? To be fair shillingate created an immense amount of bad blood here but I still wouldn't be surprised at all to hear the rifles are pretty good. Unfortunately for NEA, Daniel Defense has apparently decided the best defense is a good offense. I wouldn't even chance an NEA at the prices we can get DD here for now.
 
UH OH. So What you are saying is that the general reception is that NEA rifles are not complete peices of ****? To be fair shillingate created an immense amount of bad blood here but I still wouldn't be surprised at all to hear the rifles are pretty good. Unfortunately for NEA, Daniel Defense has apparently decided the best defense is a good offense. I wouldn't even chance an NEA at the prices we can get DD here for now.

i was looking into DD and with tax and shipping you are looking at about $800 more

DD out the door is 2 grand
NEA out the door is 1200

whats easier to get service on?
 
whats easier to get service on?

Ahhh… probably the NEA, I hear they have gone through the process so many times they have it pretty much down pat ;)

Seriously though, neither of them should need service nor have any problems right out of the box…
 
Ahhh… probably the NEA, I hear they have gone through the process so many times they have it pretty much down pat ;)

Seriously though, neither of them should need service nor have any problems right out of the box…

According to BBB NEA had issued 50,000 rifles in canada to date (last quarter) and has only had to repair 1.7%
Daniel Defense has issued 100,000 afross canada and usa and has had to repair 28.7%

98% of statistics are made up numbers.
 
actually my NEA was under 1100 with tax and shipping, free ship from SFRC tho

I had three things I asked for from NEA
1. lighter trigger, they did inform very publicly that sub 500 serial #'s had military heavy triggers (not uncommon, my Smith and wesson pistol also had a horrible duty trigger of 8.5ilbs)
2. nea poker chip, minor detail, but I wanted it, and Im picky
3. FA BCG, just for the heck of it, since I got a DPMS from when they still had to outsource for some of the the bcgs

my emails were replied to within 24hrs, all I had to do was fill out the warranty card there was 0 hassle, and I was not out one single penny for anything.

I got everything I asked for, and in addition NEA sent me, without asking for it

: stock with QD attach points,
:buffer plate with sling attachment points
:a couple patches,
:40% off coupon for my next purchase at their store

I was also treated with a level of respect and promptness that I have only seen equaled by the EXCELLENT service I receive from Henry at budget shooter supply (BEST source in canada for reloaders) and ryan at SFRC

not to mention "shillgate" wasnt the cataclysm some would gossip it out to be...

If I had a nickle for every unbacked up statement about it that could only be proofed with "deleted" threads id be rich...

and its getting real old accusing everyone who pipes up as being a happy owner as a shill...

"where are all the happy owners"-hater
"I love my NEA"-happy owner
"OMG SHILL""BURN THE WITCH""HERITIC"-dogpile of haters jump on the "shill"
"im just gonna do something else instead of ENDLESSLY defending myself against people with an axe to grind"-happy NEA owner

there are more people blindly spreading untrue gossip (soft YFS screws anyone?), then there are actual "shills"....



guns now at about 4k rounds, still worth every penny, NEA barrels had an awesome rep before they started making full AR's, and they are still awesome barrels.
 
According to BBB NEA had issued 50,000 rifles in canada to date (last quarter) and has only had to repair 1.7%
Daniel Defense has issued 100,000 afross canada and usa and has had to repair 28.7%

98% of statistics are made up numbers.

At least try to put some effort in and come up with realistic production numbers...
 
Oh common now, the NEA “military heavy triggers” were well over 10#’s… which is not common and not military standard… you know this is what started this whole thing, sugar coating over problems like they were normal or acting like they were one off incidents… seriously, why don’t you just tell it like it is?
 
10 ilbs? umm no freaking way was it that much... how do you know for a FACT that they were 10ilbs plus? cause it sure didnt take more effort to pull the trigger on mine then it did to lift the rifle... mine was 8, 8.5 max


what do you base that 10 ilbs # on?

I still have the old trigger group and springs, hook me up with a trigger gauge and Ill video testing it for you if you wanna go all conspiracy theory on me...
 
just bought a 14.5" NEA from the ammo source.
I hope Ryan lets me pay the extra $30 or so to upgrade to the Vortex sparc, but if not i understand because it is a package deal he has with the Strikefire.
 
You seem to have great difficulty with this. I'm not a NEA dealer. I'm not even associated with NEA, other than owning one.

Still waiting to hear whether you were just wrong or lying?

Sorry, that was intended as a joke... (you missed some shillin' times!) Just to clarify, in my original post I indicated "apparently", as in: this is what I understand from others. The original posts were in the now-defunct NEA dealer forum, so I imagine that retrieving them is probably a lost cause...

So yes, contrary to popular belief - the NEA AR was not universally received everywhere, either. And 'apparently', there was (at least) some degree of censorship at one point (although I'm uncertain if this is still the case) on at least one of the SA forums. I hope that clears things up.

Here's a better question, though: Why is the NEA selling for almost $2,300 CAD in South Africa? For that kind of premium, I guess it explains a lot...
 
10 ilbs? umm no freaking way was it that much... how do you know for a FACT that they were 10ilbs plus? cause it sure didnt take more effort to pull the trigger on mine then it did to lift the rifle... mine was 8, 8.5 max


what do you base that 10 ilbs # on?

I still have the old trigger group and springs, hook me up with a trigger gauge and Ill video testing it for you if you wanna go all conspiracy theory on me...

Honestly, I have no way of knowing what your trigger is, or anyone else’s as I don’t have them here with me… on the other hand it was repeatedly discussed on here and confirmed by Dave from NEA, the trigger pulls where ~12.5 pounds on the early NEAs… one poster even said they maxed their trigger gauge out attempting to properly measure it, another said they could hang the rifle from the trigger… I know, I know, this all fits into your shillgate conspiracy of things that can only be proved with deleted threads…

Oh wait, this one is not deleted…
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?727678
12-15 pounds he says…
 
Honestly, I have no way of knowing what your trigger is, or anyone else’s as I don’t have them here with me… on the other hand it was repeatedly discussed on here and confirmed by Dave from NEA, the trigger pulls where ~12.5 pounds on the early NEAs… one poster even said they maxed their trigger gauge out attempting to properly measure it, another said they could hang the rifle from the trigger… I know, I know, this all fits into your shillgate conspiracy of things that can only be proved with deleted threads…



Oh wait, this one is not deleted…
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?727678
12-15 pounds he says…

I am curious Mirk has Dave or NEA wronged you in anyway?
 
According to BBB NEA had issued 50,000 rifles in canada to date (last quarter) and has only had to repair 1.7%
Daniel Defense has issued 100,000 afross canada and usa and has had to repair 28.7%

98% of statistics are made up numbers.

50,000 rifles on two CNC machines? thats 192 rifles per working day ( 5 days a week 52 weeks a year). In the politest terms I can think of; not a chance.
 
According to BBB NEA had issued 50,000 rifles in canada to date (last quarter) and has only had to repair 1.7%
Daniel Defense has issued 100,000 afross canada and usa and has had to repair 28.7%

98% of statistics are made up numbers.

got that info off the interweb did we?

do you believe in leprechauns as well?

;)
 
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