Should I Sell My Perfect Shotgun for a Perazzi?

The above post reminds me a bit of the old joke about the woman who goes to the husband store and while the husbands get better in each successive room she looks in she is intrigued by what might be in the next one but when she gets to the last the room it doesn't have a husband in it and she can't go back.

I'm not trying to talk you into or out of the Perazzi, or the CG for that matter.

It sounds like you feel you need that tram line rib so if that really is the case then you should stick with it however there are other ways to deal with cross eye dominance. On the other hand, you shouldn't even see the rib while you are shooting.

I'm a bit intrigued by CG's claim that the Invictus uses a "modular" design for more durability, when I look at pictures of it I see no difference from the Summit model for almost double the price. The cute little video on the CG website gives away nothing technically speaking and only shows off the shininess of the receiver.
In regards to the receiver, the CG uses a Browning Citori type lockup that while it is time proven is not as solid as the Boss style action used by Perazzi, Zoli, Purdey and a few others. It's entirely rebuildable though just like the Boss, a new locking block can be put into a Perazzi for under $500 so expense here is not even a consideration.
The 20 g Summit Sporting that I have fits me perfectly without an adjustable comb and I shoot it as well as any gun I own so I have to say that I really like the gun.
I honestly don't see almost double the value moving from the Summit to the Invictus but that's just me. If I had to shoot a Summit for the rest of my life I could certainly live with that!

Good luck with your decision, I'm glad I don't have to put myself through the agony you are! Lol
I think the Invictus is actually quite an ingenious design, and that’s a big part of why it costs more than a Summit.

The most obvious feature is the ability to adjust the tightness of the barrels simply by turning a screw for if you want the gun to feel like its new or if you want it to feel like its broken in. But the design goes much further than that.

On a traditional over/under, the cam pins are located inside the receiver. Replacing them can therefore be a relatively involved job requiring a gunsmith with the appropriate knowledge and experience. On the Invictus, the cam pins are located on the monoblock instead, making them significantly easier to replace.

The Invictus also joints around a replaceable locking block at the bottom of the receiver. That locking block is essentially the wear component of the action and can be replaced simply by removing two screws.

The result is a shotgun that can, in theory, be rebuilt indefinitely. More importantly, rebuilding the gun doesn’t necessarily require a highly specialized gunsmith with decades of experience working on that specific type of action. A gunsmith with a relatively modest level of knowledge should be able to perform much of the work, and in some cases, owners may even be able to do it themselves.

So while the Summit is an excellent shotgun and offers tremendous value, the Invictus is not simply a Summit with nicer engraving or more expensive wood. It is a fundamentally different design intended to make the gun easier to maintain and rebuild over its lifetime.

That engineering is a big part of what you’re paying for with the Invictus.
 
Thanks for all the info MMM.

So when CG says the Invictus is a "million round gun", do they mean a million rounds with a rebuild or two in between or do they mean a million rounds before rebuilding? If they mean a million rounds with a couple of rebuilds then that isn't any different than any other high end gun. If they mean a million rounds before rebuild then I would expect they want to see the gun on a regular basis to ensure it gets there.

And as far as rebuilding a gun goes, there are documented examples of Mx8's with over two and three million rounds through them. I'm not sure how many times they have been rebuilt to get to that stage and I have no idea how many times more they could be rebuilt but in theory there is no real limit.
The adjustable receiver is innovative and I can see some usefulness of the system but it's not something the average shooter will ever worry about. The guy who shoots 50,000 rounds a year and keeps the gun for 20 years might find it useful. Someone who doesn't grease the receiver walls regularly might need it more.
A lot of shooters have no idea the time and money it takes to put a million rounds through a shotgun!

Cam pins are very easy to replace on an Mx8 when the stock is off, timing them properly does take someone who knows what they are doing though. I would imagine the CG cam pins need timing when they are replaced since they are a wear item, just a hunch though.

CG has a reputation for looking after their customers and it's well known that customers can send their guns to them for ongoing maintenance, in fact that's what CG prefers you do. The problem I see with that is the time it takes and the hassle of mailing your gun! Frankly I'd sooner just have a local guy that I can call and be without the gun for a couple f weeks. I know two close by that are good P-gun smiths.

The rebuild ability of the Invictus is neat but I'm not seeing much advantage to the system when I think most high volume shooters would send the gun out for a rebuild anyway.

As I said before, I'm not trying to talk anyone into or out of a new CG but rather I'm just trying to put it all into perspective.
 
As mentioned, Some brands of guns really benefit from having a yearly done on them.

There was a black cloud that followed the ATA circuit in Alberta this year. Attitudes sucked and for the most part so did the weather.
 
Flipping a coin can help difficult decisions where you don’t have all the information and both ways make sense. If you go with the coin toss at least a decision has been made. If you argue with your own coin toss thats a pretty indicator that deep down you already knew what you wanted.😄
 
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