Show Digging Up the Trenches, Sniper Question About "Reversed Projectiles"

Development of the .50 Brg started in April 1918 and the original ctg was rimmed like the 13mm German ctg. "History of Modern US Military Small Arms Ammunition"HWS
The 13mm ctg was tested in Jan 1918 and in full production by April. "German 7.9MM Ammunition" Kent
 
Saw a test of this on A&E or mythbusters. It worked the bullet did'nt necessarily go thru the plate but created a ??plasma?? and blew a chunk of the plate out the other side.
 
Saw a test of this on A&E or mythbusters. It worked the bullet did'nt necessarily go thru the plate but created a ??plasma?? and blew a chunk of the plate out the other side.

Spalling. What HESH rounds were designed to do on a much larger scale.

Not all steels will do it of course.

Larger problem in WWI was liquefied lead squirting through the seams in the riveted armour. Probably one of the reasons we still had riveted armour at the start of WWII.:rolleyes:
 
Larger problem in WWI was liquefied lead squirting through the seams in the riveted armour.
Hence stylish British anti-spall headdress:
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Spalling. What HESH rounds were designed to do on a much larger scale.

Not all steels will do it of course.

Larger problem in WWI was liquefied lead squirting through the seams in the riveted armour. Probably one of the reasons we still had riveted armour at the start of WWII.:rolleyes:

:onCrack:f:P:2: "liquefied lead squirting through seams":confused: A bullet never "liquefies" on impact....unless of course your "firing" a squirt gun.:redface:
 
Development of the .50 Brg started in April 1918 and the original ctg was rimmed like the 13mm German ctg. "History of Modern US Military Small Arms Ammunition"HWS
The 13mm ctg was tested in Jan 1918 and in full production by April. "German 7.9MM Ammunition" Kent

the .50 bmg was inspired by the .30-06 the .50 bmg is a up scaled .30-06

no german round in the mix
 
As for backwards improvised loaded bullets for added penetration it was a well know trick of the early ivory hunters when they ran low of FMJ's they simply pulled and reversed SP's.......................Harold..............I have an old artical on the 13mm anti tank rifle
 
the .50 bmg was inspired by the .30-06 the .50 bmg is a up scaled .30-06

no german round in the mix

OK do not believe the recognised history of US military ammo. One of the experimental 50 ctgs matched the case shape and rim of the 13mm.
 
I call BS on the theory. If they want to defeat armour they need velocity and a small hard cross section. A reversed bullet produces neither. If they want spall on the reverse side of a steel plate it would not make a difference which way the bullet was oriented when striking (although at anything but point blank range the reversed bullet would be slower).

no bs. they did this on myth busters and it worked as indicated. went through armour plate with the reversed bullet while the same 'normal' bullet didn't penetrate the plate.
 
I haven't read the whole thread but I remember when I watched the show they mentioned that the backwards bullet would send splinters of steel into the face of the opposite sniper.. not penetrate the steel entirely.
 
I made thousands of round of Mecixican match. Pulled the FMJ and stuck in a Sierra 150 Match.

One day I decided to use some of the FMJ bullets to load in my 30-30. I loaded them upside down. They would cycle though the action just fine and work in the magazine. They shot nice wad cutter holes at 100. accuracy was fine at 50 yard plinking distances.

Did not shoot any steel plate, though.
 
Is there any official WW1 period military documentation to this or is this just a myth? I can believe that some soldiers tried this (and believed it worked) but I find it suspect never mind what you see on TV. Spalling - maybe. But I wonder what the Germans would do if they captured an Allied soldier with those rounds.

Re WW1 tanks:

Keep in mind that WW2 and post WW2 HESH, HEAT tank rounds etc also knock out tanks by there concussive forces that detonate ammo, fuel within the tank not just by a hot stream of metal cutting through the armour as I believe in a RPG. WW1 tank armour was not thick - German tactical doctrine was to engage tanks with MGs as well as artillery.
 
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