Show me your FN's

Plink said:
Awwww.. paulz... you suck...... but in a good way.. LOL

That's an awesome collection! :)
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Actually, there are other guys on this forum that have twice as many or even more! Not to mention some of the guys with Full Auto versions, C2 clones and all sorts of accessories like NVGs, MILES gear and other goodies. I am small potatoes in comparison.
 
paulz said:
Actually, there are other guys on this forum that have twice as many or even more! Not to mention some of the guys with Full Auto versions, C2 clones and all sorts of accessories like NVGs, MILES gear and other goodies. I am small potatoes in comparison.
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So what's the deal with that? Before when you would go to the range if you were licenced and had FA guns, the 5 round mag capacity would have sucked. Did the guys with FA guns get to keep the mag capacity or were stuck with the same old 5 rounders we use? How did that work after C68?
 
Paulz I was admiring your Australian FN with the laminate handguard (third one down). I think they are probably the toughest one made for an FN. I have a set in my foot locker of stocks and mine has a reflective liner inside, I presume to deflect the heat.
I was thinking of replacing one or two of the lowers with new C1 lowers I have in my shop.

This one I think is a Commercial FN in beautiful condition.

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DARKSTANG said:
So what's the deal with that? Before when you would go to the range if you were licenced and had FA guns, the 5 round mag capacity would have sucked. Did the guys with FA guns get to keep the mag capacity or were stuck with the same old 5 rounders we use? How did that work after C68?
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No, unfortunately the 5 round mag rule is universal, since it applies to the mag and not the gun. Prior to C-17/C-68, a grandfathered F/A was just like a restricted, although you were also restricted to ranges that were templated for full -auto (DND ranges basically).

The only way for a private individual to fire his own 12.2/3/4/5 rifle is to get a STATT to a gunsmith for repair or other work, and test fire it at the gunsmith's place if he has a test range on the premises. I suppose in theory, you could get a CFO approved indoor range built in your basement in the same room as you store your gun, and then you aren't actually transporting it to the range, but other than that...(and you are stuck with 5 round mags).

There are still movie prop and military/police supply companies that have live F/A guns, and on certain occasions, can get permission to take them to DND ranges for "testing".

Peter G. Kokalis did an article in Shotgun news a couple of years ago where he accompanied an Ontario based company to Borden for a F/A shoot.

We only got a few years between C-68 and the loss of the SAPs anyway.

I am still holding out hope that one day we will get LTATTs rolled into the license (or abolished altogether), and I can take my babies out for a walk again.
 
albayo said:
Paulz I was admiring your Australian FN with the laminate handguard (third one down). I think they are probably the toughest one made for an FN. I have a set in my foot locker of stocks and mine has a reflective liner inside, I presume to deflect the heat.
I was thinking of replacing one or two of the lowers with new C1 lowers I have in my shop.

This one I think is a Commercial FN in beautiful condition.

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Yes, the foil stuff is supposed to be a heat shield. The Skennerton book I told you about (see the PM), has a page on hand-guards where they talk about the laminated hand-guards, all of which had the heat-shield.

The original wooden hand-guards tended to crack around the cooling slots. FN switched to plastic for hand-guards, even while retaining wood for butstocks for a while (like your commercial rifle). The British switched to the black plastic furniture. Canada eliminated the cooling holes on later production (like on my 8L). Australia went with the laminated hand-guards with the foil heatshields. Besides being stronger and lighter, they are also cheaper, bring made out of Australian "coachwood" rather than walnut.

Interestingly, the British bought some rifles from Australia for the B.A.T.T (British Army Training Team), I assume for use in the Caribbean, Uganda, Zimbabwe etc,but there are pictures of British soldiers using rifles with the laminated hand-guards in Northern Ireland. Not sure why.

One of the things I am very happy about is that my collection includes both the old and new style Australian L1A1s. The older one ('62), has the old style wooden hand-guards and wooden carrying handle. The Singapore Police one (that you admire), has the laminated hand-guards and plastic carrying handle.

There are also two variants of the laminated hand-guards. Earlier models had flat/flush rivets attaching the sheet-metal front part, and later models had open rivets (with a stem hole like pop-rivets).
 
Navy Gunner,

I am jealous.

The FNC would be awesome to have, as would the G series. Other than the Israeli, I don't have any metric pattern rifles in my collection, because G series commercial rifles (like yours(?) and Albayo's) are rare and don't come up for sale much. Every other metric pattern rifle I have ever come across have been 12.3's, which I don't have the grandfathering for.
 
Really good to see that theres guy like you all looking after these guns :)

Now Im showing my ignorance..again :) Are you guys registered collectors ? and would it be possible to legally own a FN if a guy was a collector of military weapons.
If I could legaly own one as a collector Im going to start a freakin collection.
All these gorgeous pics have put my marriage on the line :)))

Sorry if the question is stupid but I just worked 36hr strait.
 
ishi

this is my ishapore 1a1. the police put in in jail for over a year:(
they wanted to inspect it. now it's out on parole and she's hiding
in the back of a locked closet all in chains. poor girl. :)
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Lost...again said:
Really good to see that theres guy like you all looking after these guns :)

Now Im showing my ignorance..again :) Are you guys registered collectors ? and would it be possible to legally own a FN if a guy was a collector of military weapons.
If I could legaly own one as a collector Im going to start a freakin collection.
All these gorgeous pics have put my marriage on the line :)))

Sorry if the question is stupid but I just worked 36hr strait.
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You may only own an FN if you have the proper license. If you don't have it now, you won't be getting it. You had to have owned an FN when they were prohibited in bill C-68. I know, it sucks. Considering I was three when C-68 passed in '95, I didn't quite make the grandfathering bandwagon. :p
 
What Andurp said. If you didn't already own one before the cutoff date you are S.O.L. Back in the day, FNs were at one time non-restricted, then restricted after '78, then finally prohib.

I bought mine when they were restricted, for target shooting. After the loss of the SAPs for taking them to the range, I had to register as a collector before they would transfer any more of them to me.

Even being grandfathered can suck. Back in the day we were told that "If you have a prohibited firearm you will be grandfathered for prohibited firearms". They had not at that time made the various classes of prohibs yet (except for F/A).

Being a poor starving OCdt at the time, I didn't have the cash to buy more prohibs than the first L1A1 that I bought. I passed up a C/A Bren gun and a Makarov pistol. I didn't feel too bad, because I was sure that in the future, when I had more money, I could get them, because after all, I would be grandfathered for prohibited firearms. Imagine my surprise and dismay when they came out with the various classes, and I discovered that I would only be 12.5.:mad:
 
paulz said:
What Andurp said. If you didn't already own one before the cutoff date you are S.O.L. Back in the day, FNs were at one time non-restricted, then restricted after '78, then finally prohib.

I bought mine when they were restricted, for target shooting. After the loss of the SAPs for taking them to the range, I had to register as a collector before they would transfer any more of them to me.

Even being grandfathered can suck. Back in the day we were told that "If you have a prohibited firearm you will be grandfathered for prohibited firearms". They had not at that time made the various classes of prohibs yet (except for F/A).

Being a poor starving OCdt at the time, I didn't have the cash to buy more prohibs than the first L1A1 that I bought. I passed up a C/A Bren gun and a Makarov pistol. I didn't feel too bad, because I was sure that in the future, when I had more money, I could get them, because after all, I would be grandfathered for prohibited firearms. Imagine my surprise and dismay when they came out with the various classes, and I discovered that I would only be 12.5.:mad:
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Hopefully we get rid of these disgusting laws so you can take your FN out again! I'm 20, and will never be able to own one legally. My Dad likes to make me jealous with his stories of the C1A1 from basic officer training.

If we somehow manage to get rid of these laws, I'd be happy to own a new manufacture American one at least. Ideally, I'd love to own a commonwealth surplus one. It's sad, because the FAL is really the only reason I got into guns. I saw one in a museum and said "I want to have one of those!" My Dad told me that if I got my gun license, I could probably buy one, as the last time he had anything to do with civilian gun ownership was the late 80's when they weren't as scary as they are now. We researched it, and it turns out he was of course incorrect, a disappointment to both of us.

We can dream for better times though, eh? :(
 
The FN rifles sure are nice! I've heard stories how accurate they are but wondered if it is like the Swiss K31's being consonantly overrated type of thing.

Out of curiosity, how would the FAL platform compare to the M14 in terms of durability and overall accuracy?
 
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