Show me your FN's

M14's are easier shooting rifles etc, but if an FN had gone to the tecs and was refurbished properly it was a tack driver in the hands of a good marksmen/ I saw an FNC1 on mt SACC years ago, that had been to the tecs and redone, and it operated with no problem with the gas port fully open for the entire course
 
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US army did an extensive test and elevation on FN & M14 before it adopted the 14. Other free world forces opted for FN over M14. There seems to be no right or wrong answer on which is the better battle rifle of the two.
 
US army did an extensive test and elevation on FN & M14 before it adopted the 14. Other free world forces opted for FN over M14. There seems to be no right or wrong answer on which is the better battle rifle of the two.
there is definatly a right answer if you read how the americans performed the tests, imagine if you gave your local ford dealer a new BMW, a new Camero and asked them to throw in something off their lot and then asked them which one you should buy every year for the next 10 years
 
Some gun experts said the real AR10 should have been the winner of the 3 choices considered (FN, M14 & AR10).
 
Here is the pride of my collection - An Australian L1A1 that magically started to look like a C1A1 during my time in the Army Reserve. I used to bring this baby out to the range qualifications and walk away with the best shot. That's what happens when you don't scour the sh!t out of your rifle.

I just hastily set this up as a concept shot. There are clues in the photo as to what regiment I belonged to....

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Right, I can see how the testing might be a little biased. My in-law used the C1 and had nothing but good things to say about them. Actually, I envy him for learning to shoot on one.

Since I can't have a FN I though I would ask how the two rifles stack up.
 
Beautiful. We have to get the law's changed.

One of my favourites was a very high (12L I think) numbered one, fresh out of cosmoline at Pet in or around 76 or so. Never been fired, nicely accurate.

But at 10 lbs, 11 oz fully loaded Sgt., they at times were a bit to be humping.
 
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The FN rifles sure are nice! I've heard stories how accurate they are but wondered if it is like the Swiss K31's being consonantly overrated type of thing.

Out of curiosity, how would the FAL platform compare to the M14 in terms of durability and overall accuracy?

What experience do you have of the K31s being over-rated?

In over 20 years of experience with them, only seen 2 out of maybe 100 that were problematic shooters. Mainly because their owners shot and competed them regularly and extensively for over 40yrs and throat erosion came into play with issue ammunition..

Back to FNs.

Met Tommy Richardson regularly at St.Bruno range when we had our Swiss/PQRA matches and get togethers. He mentioned the biggest accuracy problem the FNs had was the slop in the upper/lower receiver hinge causing inconsistent alignment between the front and rear sight. remember that the front sight is part of the upper while the rear sight is part of the lower receiver. He worked on some of the rifles used for Bisley.

Anyway here are some of mine.

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Like the adjustable sights on the M14s for match purposes.
Prefer the FN overall, even after sweating my butt off on the parade square and exercises with them. Arms get sore just remembering it. :)
 
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If I offended you about the K31 this was not my intention. I know they are considered an accurate Mil Surp rifle and was looking into buying one but didn't want to roll the dice on a used rifle. Plus there was the scope mounting and ammo cost issues...

I ended up picking up a Marlin XL7 with Nikon glass on sale instead as the K31 pickings were slim at the time. Two totally different animals. Very cool FN pictures by the way.
 
Did someone say C1? I've got to get some updated photos with better gear shots, but this is all I got for now.

Thank the classification gawds, or they might be tempted to do a drive-by whilst out of my basement. Who knows what havoc might be wreaked.:rolleyes: Keeping Canada safe for just one child.

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If I offended you about the K31 this was not my intention. I know they are considered an accurate Mil Surp rifle and was looking into buying one but didn't want to roll the dice on a used rifle. Plus there was the scope mounting and ammo cost issues...

I ended up picking up a Marlin XL7 with Nikon glass on sale instead as the K31 pickings were slim at the time. Two totally different animals. Very cool FN pictures by the way.

No offence taken. Just wondering if you needed help resolving an issue.
$100± for scope mount and rings isn't too bad by anyone's standards.
Tradeex has the GP11 ammo and reloading it is a snap.
 
Koldt now you are showing off. Just kidding, Absolutely beautiful.
Really great pictures of tour C1s. Now I really feel bad, I should have kept my 8L C1 it was in the same condition as Koldt's.

I didn't really get a good look at one of the Canadian C1 SMGs to compare it to the Sterling Mk4, L2 A3 until now. Now I see the difference in the quality of manufacturing on the two guns. The Canadian model shows lots of shortcuts. For example the mag well is spot welded not blended into the body like the Sterling. The bolt on the C1 SMG is very similar to the Sten SMG, simple and solid. The L2 A3 has a hollow bolt with a secondary spring and counter weight that reduces the movement of the bolt moving back and forth. The L2 A3 I assume is like the Sterling Police Carbine feels like shooting a .22 semi-auto compared to the C1 SMG in semi-auto.
If you need a 5/10 round mag, and a BFA for your C1 SMG I have a couple in my collection. I also have some C1 rifle and SMG parts (no trigger parts), grips, end caps, ejectors, and mag release parts.
I am looking for a No5 bayonet manufactured by Sterling for my collection. It should have STERLING marked on the blade.
 
Is it correct that the only C1's sold to civies were from the O.P.P.?

The rules really do leave me shaking my head. I had a converted FAL that was essentially a new rifle. All those years up on the firing point blasting away, who knew it was the rifle and not me.

If there was a C2 that needed to be carried I pretty much always got the job.
 
Koldt........awesome !! You lucky sod :) I started with the SLR...sigh, flipped to the SMG bigger sigh...... and ended up with the SA80. Wouldnt have the last one in the house but the other two...Oh yes.

I was looking on EE and cant believe how freakin cheap the FN's are..I guess there arent too many buyers eh.Saw one for 600 shipped and another for 800.......

I could cry :((
 
Koldt now you are showing off. Just kidding, Absolutely beautiful.
Really great pictures of tour C1s. Now I really feel bad, I should have kept my 8L C1 it was in the same condition as Koldt's.

I didn't really get a good look at one of the Canadian C1 SMGs to compare it to the Sterling Mk4, L2 A3 until now. Now I see the difference in the quality of manufacturing on the two guns. The Canadian model shows lots of shortcuts. For example the mag well is spot welded not blended into the body like the Sterling. The bolt on the C1 SMG is very similar to the Sten SMG, simple and solid. The L2 A3 has a hollow bolt with a secondary spring and counter weight that reduces the movement of the bolt moving back and forth. The L2 A3 I assume is like the Sterling Police Carbine feels like shooting a .22 semi-auto compared to the C1 SMG in semi-auto.
If you need a 5/10 round mag, and a BFA for your C1 SMG I have a couple in my collection. I also have some C1 rifle and SMG parts (no trigger parts), grips, end caps, ejectors, and mag release parts.
I am looking for a No5 bayonet manufactured by Sterling for my collection. It should have STERLING marked on the blade.
Most of the OPP guns were of very good shape. There were a few other, ie. 6L series guns that I have seen that were probably purchased through the DCRA program in the 60's. I had a chanse to buy the one previously owned by Ray Laycock, it was a 6L series gun.. I should have.

I've owned a Police Carbine previously. Matter of fact I traded it, for this Canadian C1.... Whether that was a good trade is up for debate, but I like Canadian stuff, and there is only 2 CA Canadian C1 SMGs left in Canada. Legally.
I also had 3 variants of the Brit L2A3 bayonet. Wood grip, plastic, and metal grip. The plastic and metal grip versions had Sterling etched. The wood grip was identical to the one on the cover of G of D book.

You are right in that the Canadian C1 does not have the same finish as the Brit gun. The L2A3 was parkarized first, then painted with the "crackle" type of paint n bake finish. The Brit trigger group is stainless and more complex.

I think the Canadian version is completely compatible as the Brit gun, just more economical. And of course the C1 uses the FNC1A1 bayonet, whereas the L2A3 uses the No5 knife.

The Brit mags are also "better" but again, economy.

Both shot/shoot the same. Our Canadian 9mm ammo was speced for use in the C1, as it will chronograph at 1330fps out of the 10 inch C1 barrel.

Thank you for the offer on the parts.

Some day maybe we'll be able to shoot both without being a criminal.
 
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