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Bought this because I couldn't pass up the sale price on it...

Ended up loving it so much I came up with an entire system to fireform .303 brass into shotshells for it - which I can reload indefinitely.

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Bought this because I couldn't pass up the sale price on it...

Ended up loving it so much I came up with an entire system to fireform .303 brass into shotshells for it - which I can reload indefinitely.

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well with a pile of lee Enfield parts around, (no good parts were ruined in making these) they are all random parts nothing is matching numbers, and 2 barrels that were unusable i decided to make 410's with them. head space is a bit much, .014" but seems to work well still, i have the longest bolt heads i ave on there now, i may solder a shim on the bolt face one day.

since the pics ive added front and rear sights on them

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Why is this the first time I've heard of .303 being used with .410? You gentlemen have peaked my interest. Evanguy, do you find they work well? They look pretty slick.
 
Why is this the first time I've heard of .303 being used with .410? You gentlemen have peaked my interest. Evanguy, do you find they work well? They look pretty slick.

.410 Enfields are fairly common and not expensive.

Ishapore converted a bunch of Enfields to ".410 Muskets" for use by prison guards in India from the late 20's throught the 50's.

As for fireforming brass into .410...

.303 is only one of numerous different shells you can do this with. It comes down to history... In the late 1800's when there was an explosion in rifle and pistol development, engineers used the expedient of necking down, tapering, lengthening or shortening 45/70 shells to accommodate different cartridges and chamberings. .410 just happens to be one of those shells. So is .303 British.

I did up a couple of videos while I was experimenting with fireforming the brass, posted the vids in this thread: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum...410-shotshells. Boring, windy videos, but the basic info is there if you want to give it a go.

Ian at ForgottenWeapons did a vid on the Ishapore muskets:

 
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head space is a bit much, .014" but seems to work well still, i have the longest bolt heads i ave on there now, i may solder a shim on the bolt face one day.

Ended up loving it so much I came up with an entire system to fireform .303 brass into shotshells for it - which I can reload indefinitely.

Nice job Evanguy. Makes me wonder if grelmar's fire formed .303 brass would give you better head spacing... assuming that 1) it would help, 2) you are interested in the procedure and 3) you have not tried it.
 
Many years back, I was given this 410 Ranger single shot, 2 1/2". It sat on the dash of the truck on many trips and provided us many a fine meal of 'Ditch Chickens' in camp plus a tupperware container of beer battered 'Ditch Chicken' hors d'oeuvres for the trip trip back home.



A short while ago, I retired that Ranger and replaced it with a 3" Savage model 311 in a SxS. Following the tradition, it's got a long row to hoe to match the performance of the Ranger.

 
I must say, you guys have piqued my curiosity. I bought a 20ga this year, and I haven't touched the 12ga since... For you guys hunting grouse with these, are you wingshooting with the .410, or ground sluicing 'em? I'm certainly not above popping a grouse on the ground, my .22 took several this year; a grouse in the pot is a grouse in the pot...
 
I must say, you guys have piqued my curiosity. I bought a 20ga this year, and I haven't touched the 12ga since... For you guys hunting grouse with these, are you wingshooting with the .410, or ground sluicing 'em? I'm certainly not above popping a grouse on the ground, my .22 took several this year; a grouse in the pot is a grouse in the pot...

This is from a few years back. Getting Mr. Moose prepped for the meat pole at my hunting cabin in the B.C. interior.



On these Moose trips, most of our Grouse for camp meat are shot on the ground, a few in the trees and the odd one on the wing.
Returning back to camp one day, Spruce Grouse were feeding on berries in the front yard.





Prepping for the trip back home.

 
This is from a few years back. Getting Mr. Moose prepped for the meat pole at my hunting cabin in the B.C. interior.



On these Moose trips, most of our Grouse for camp meat are shot on the ground, a few in the trees and the odd one on the wing.
Returning back to camp one day, Spruce Grouse were feeding on berries in the front yard.





Prepping for the trip back home.


Nice pics John, thanks for sharing. There's a startling lack of camouflage in these pictures, and I bet you guys weren't hunting with magnums either...
 
Nice pics John, thanks for sharing. There's a startling lack of camouflage in these pictures, and I bet you guys weren't hunting with magnums either...

Well, in the first photo, we sort of had camo. Note the two guys on the left of the picture are wearing 'West Coast Cashmere' :p . That's what we called the gray Stanfields when I was logging on the west coast of the island. I still have a couple of sets, plus wool fisherman pants and a couple pair of Red Strap blue jeans, also from my logging days :) . And, not shown in the photo, I did have a magnum that year. A 308 Norma Magnum.
 
This is from a few years back. Getting Mr. Moose prepped for the meat pole at my hunting cabin in the B.C. interior.



On these Moose trips, most of our Grouse for camp meat are shot on the ground, a few in the trees and the odd one on the wing.
Returning back to camp one day, Spruce Grouse were feeding on berries in the front yard.





Prepping for the trip back home.


Those are big grouses hanging on the meat post :)
 
In other gauges I use 7.5 shot for grouse hunting but I've found with the 410, I have better luck using 6 in 3" shells as they have a little better penetration with the lower velocity.
 
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