Side berms as backstops - a request for your range rules

You are lucky. We do have a good relationship with the OPP and MNR.

5 or 6 years ago we purchased another 200 acres to stop the township from putting a housing development after building a road.

The extra money would be nice, but that would take us into the realm of being a for profit org.
 
it wouldn't if you plan your expenditures properly. NFP doesn't mean you can't make money
 
Cameron SS said:
Can you provide a link/reference to your case?

IF a precedent has been established in Alberta Court I am sure there are Ontario Range operators who would love to put that to work for them.
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I would be interested in seeing this as well. Would be very helpful here in NB as we have had at least 3 ranges recently shut down due to failed inspections. The CFO here seems to have an agenda of his own.
 
You are able to make money to build a contingency fund, but those funds must be earmarked for various items. If you start building up cash with no plans on what to do with it, then you may be getting a closer look by CRA.
 
I've read summaries of that, and it's far more involved than your post above that says you cannot build reserves, etc. Imagine if hospital foundations couldn't raise a chunk of cash to build expansions..... Makes no sense.
 
If NFPs were unable to “build up a reserve” they would close up shop pretty quick. I’ve been involved with a few and we always had accounts with specific goals attached to them. For example, raising the capital for firefighting equipment in a small community can take years.
 
We've been audited, and CRA has zero issue with the money we bring in. Maybe other provinces have different rules regarding NFP. We've been in contact with the CRA previously on our bank accounts they have no issues with how we raise our money, nor the amounts.
 
I'm unsure how they can set a specific value for what a NFP can obtain, some big NFPs would have larger budgets, smaller ones, smaller.
 
From my experience in Banking across Canada I can say there are a number of NFP organizations with 7 figure bank balances and a couple at 8 figures so I doubt it has much to do with the amount of money you accumulate. Just saying.

I suspect Rob's experience might just reflect Turdos and his band of bandits thinking as it relates to civilian ownership of firearms. If a US Steel stage has a steel target at 7 yards and has had since the sport started I see no reason why this example alone ought to be enough to convince a CFO setting steel at that distance would be safe. The other side of the coin unfortunately is IDPA by rule lists 10 yards as it's maximum.

We use side berms as backstops and they are approved by the CFO. I assume they are approved. I know if it were me I would not bring the subject up. It is easier for an inspector to say no to a question like that than yes. One answer has consequences while the other has none. I would not suggest getting your back up and either threatening court action or going to court is the route to take. First, it is expensive and there is a good chance you won't get the answer you want. Too, at the end of the day you are going to have an ugly CFO to deal with after the dust settles. Where is the win? There is no sense in being dead right in a crosswalk.

Take care

Bob
 
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the new standard they seem to be trying to apply is no side berm impacts, when they come to inspect, they bring it up.
 
Slavex said:
the new standard they seem to be trying to apply is no side berm impacts, when they come to inspect, they bring it up.
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Curious what their reasoning is?

If the concern is a ricochet to the normal static firing line, can you still shoot at the side berms beyond 10 yds from the normal static firing line?
 
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