Side Saddle - Legality question

bill c68 said:
From the Quebec Hunting regs:

if the latter is attached
to the firearm,

That is what I can remember from the firearms course that the FQF provides.

Makes sense safety wise.



BT
 
echo4lima said:
If I am camping, and the shotgun is in the trailer, is it considered storage? hence unloaded? Or should it be left in the truck with side saddle full and can assume it is considered in "Transport mode" vs storage??

In the CFC's brochure "Storing, Transporting and Displaying Firearms" it advises that;

-An unloaded non-restricted firearm can be unlocked:

-temporarily if it is needed to control animal preditors in an area where a firearm can lawfully be fired (ammunition must be kept seperate or locked up); or

-in a remote wilderness area (ammunition may be kept readily accessible).
 
Boomer said:
In the CFC's brochure "Storing, Transporting and Displaying Firearms" it advises that;

-An unloaded non-restricted firearm can be unlocked:

-temporarily if it is needed to control animal preditors in an area where a firearm can lawfully be fired (ammunition must be kept seperate or locked up); or

-in a remote wilderness area (ammunition may be kept readily accessible).

Hell, if a Butt-Sock and/or a side saddle is not readily accessible, I don't know what is....
 
"-An unloaded non-restricted firearm can be unlocked:

-temporarily if it is needed to control animal preditors in an area where a firearm can lawfully be fired (ammunition must be kept seperate or locked up); or"

:rolleyes: If I need to temporarily control animal predators, I want the ammo at hand or in the gun.

"-in a remote wilderness area (ammunition may be kept readily accessible)."

How do they define a remote wilderness area?

You could come face to face with a predator anywhere. Heck, I live in the city, but I have a provincial park 10 yrds from my appartment...

I could see a widow: well, we were'nt sure if this placed qualified as a remote wilderness area so Bob kept the ammo locked in the glove compartment. The bear chewed his head off before he could get to the car.
 
echo4lima said:
Sorry, and thanks Gatehouse, your synopsis was what I was looking for, all angles covered, clear and concise...mucho grassy-ass.....Although, just to add a facet to this,

If I am camping, and the shotgun is in the trailer, is it considered storage? hence unloaded? Or should it be left in the truck with side saddle full and can assume it is considered in "Transport mode" vs storage??

#1 If you are in attendence, then all laws are pretty much *poof* gone..What I mean is that if you are *present* and you are in an area that it is legal to discharge firearms, then yo ucan have that gun loaded up and ready.

Most BCFS campsites dont' allow the dishcharge of firearms, but lets not be silly- noone has an issue with you loading a gun in such a site if you are in peril form abear etc.

In any case, if you are present and the firearm is unloaded,noone can relaly say anything. It is not uncommon for hunters to be in these sites and have their rifles avilable, whether cleaning them or whatever.

#2 If you decide to go on a hike or bike ride, you can leglaly leave your shotgun in the trailer, I believe. It is problay being "transported unattended" since yo uare going to move your trialer in a day or 2.

If you want my opinion, and what volumes of BC hunters do every year, and you want to deal with reality, it is this-

We dont' piss around too much. Unless you are in a campsite close to population and are waving around a gun and shooting it, noone is going to bug you.

If your firearm is in a trailer whenyou camp in a 'wilderness' area, noone wil ask you about anyting. If you are in a campground close to population (like inthe Okanagon) noone willask you anything unless you are waving it around.

On the odd time when a CO has come into camp, he asks for our hunting licenes, and may glance at the rifles. The only time I have been asked to show a gun is at a roadcheck, when they want to see if it is unloaded, noting more.

I have had numerous encounters with CO's where I was glassing for game,a nd they pulled up,chuckied my Hunting Lic and that was it. I ask "do you want to see my rifle" and they say "nawwwww" they only want to check it if you are driving.

I've had a gun in my truck for 15 years, I rarely go anywhere without one, and I never get asked about it, except during a CO roadblock in huting season.

We can play arond with legal opinions for days and days, but the truth is, carrry your PAL and REG card, keep you r gun unloaded during transport or if you leave it in your vehicle or trailer, load it if you are in camp and you feel the need to.....and chances are- noone will say ####.

You are in BC, not Ontario.;)

PS Get a pmphlet form the CFC that outlines transport/storqage guidlines, to show to the cops if you ever find one that yealls "THIS SHOTGUN NEEDS TO BE TRIGGEROCKED AND IN A CASE" so you can say..well, not according tot he cffc...:)
 
Why is it illegal??? Actual law saying this or just an aspect of being "in transport"???



pheasntguy said:
I'm thinking right or wrong,do you really want to chance having to tell the officier he may be wrong? Here in ontario,leaning a loaded rifle against a ATV is illegal.Laws don't always make sense.
 
Thanks guys...and oh, the trigger lock...it is on there because there are other kids camping with us, my kids know not to touch without me being there supervising, the other kids have no firearms experience and the wife thought with them around the camp ground, might be best to keep a trigger lock on it, I agreed, had it off at night though.
 
echo4lima said:
Thanks guys...and oh, the trigger lock...it is on there because there are other kids camping with us, my kids know not to touch without me being there supervising, the other kids have no firearms experience and the wife thought with them around the camp ground, might be best to keep a trigger lock on it, I agreed, had it off at night though.


I imagine youd' feel pretyt f**king stupid trying to unlock that trigger lock if there was a bear munching on one of those kids in the broad daylight...

Keep it unlocked, out of sight fo the kids, and keep the ammo in your pocket,is what I woudl do in this case.:) ;)
 
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