Sig DAK - opinions?
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Just wondering, why would you want to buy a double action only SIG and have to put up with a long double action trigger pull all the time, even if the DAK trigger is supposed to be a littler better than most? Not slamming anyone here, can't go wrong with a SIG, but as civvies aren't there better choices out there? IIRC, the DAK was specifically designed and targetted at US federal law enforcement agencies and similar law enforcement entities that require a DAO for their duty sidearm?
The DAK has a 6.5lb trigger pull. There is a lot of talk about them being esier to shoot consistantly because you have a constant trigger pull weight every time.
Myself I find that the tirgger pull is a little too shot for my hands in single action. The Double action pull feels very comfrotable.
There has been much discussion about this topic and suggestions to try the DAK over the DA/SA pistols for those looking to buy new.
Edit: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133723&highlight=DAK
Myself I find that the tirgger pull is a little too shot for my hands in single action. The Double action pull feels very comfrotable.
There has been much discussion about this topic and suggestions to try the DAK over the DA/SA pistols for those looking to buy new.
Edit: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133723&highlight=DAK
I think the HK LEM is similiar to this trigger system. A light DAo trigger, with the LEM, you only release the trigger enough to allow it to reset (about A distance), and then press again for the next shot. If your finger goes off the trigger, the trigger travels out to full DA distance, but the weight stays the same.
I have a DAK 226 in 9mm.
I love the gun and it is the one I shoot most.
The trigger does take some time to get used too,
but once ur on it, ur on it.
Mine is extremely accurate (Sig's just are) and I find
that after shooting this trigger system I have developed a
finer sense for trigger crontrol.
I mean, you can't 'jerk' the trigger just to make it go bang,
the pull is longer than that. You have to be diligent with every shot.
maurice is correct, about half way is the re-set point.
Anyone in Calgary, contact me if you want to try it out.
I love the gun and it is the one I shoot most.
The trigger does take some time to get used too,
but once ur on it, ur on it.
Mine is extremely accurate (Sig's just are) and I find
that after shooting this trigger system I have developed a
finer sense for trigger crontrol.
I mean, you can't 'jerk' the trigger just to make it go bang,
the pull is longer than that. You have to be diligent with every shot.
maurice is correct, about half way is the re-set point.
Anyone in Calgary, contact me if you want to try it out.
In case you haven't been following:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143926&page=7
This is my first DAO semi, ever... I don't think I'd like it if the pull weight was heavier. I am not joining the DAO camp at all as I love DA/SA too much, but, the SIG DAK is the perfect compromise and I recommend it - don't let it put you off if you were uncertain about it
~Cheers
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143926&page=7
This is my first DAO semi, ever... I don't think I'd like it if the pull weight was heavier. I am not joining the DAO camp at all as I love DA/SA too much, but, the SIG DAK is the perfect compromise and I recommend it - don't let it put you off if you were uncertain about it
~Cheers
I've also got one in 9MM...it takes some getting used to, but it definately rewards you for being smooth on the trigger.
As stated, it's chief advantage is for LE where liability issues outweigh accuracy. Having said that, I can shoot my DAK as well as my DA/SA 226...
You just have to take a little more time and care, but in the real world, I would be happy to be armed with a DAK (if ever given the chance!)
As stated, it's chief advantage is for LE where liability issues outweigh accuracy. Having said that, I can shoot my DAK as well as my DA/SA 226...
You just have to take a little more time and care, but in the real world, I would be happy to be armed with a DAK (if ever given the chance!)
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UncleWalther said:
If you're a cop I can see why you might want it, but for target shooting I can't see the point. I've tried a P226R DAK and wasn't overwhelmed. If you dry-fire it feels worse than it actually is, because it's a bit like a half-cocked P220 (with the old trigger pull). You have to rack the slide first to feel what it feels like to shoot.
Which is basically, a fairly light (but not super light) slightly gritty DAO.
Far better than the original DAO P220-series guns, but like I said, I cannot see the point to it from the standpoint of target shooting, the ordinary SA trigger pull is lighter and shorter and resets far faster.
You only gain an advantage with the DAK on the first shot, IMO. (Assuming you don't #### the hammer manually on your ordinary DA SIG-Sauer for the first shot).
cybershooters said:
I used to say that, but on the plus side; it makes you a hell of a better shot.
After a few hundred rounds through one of my DAOs with a long pull, I was making much tighter groups with my DA/SAs as there is no room for error on those long pulls.
Fonix said:
+1
I've only been dry-firing it for a few days now (go home, open safe, dry fire until bedtime
)... but already I've noticed a big difference.I used to wonder why my Glock would sometimes have a twitch in the front sight when the striker was released. I thought it was my grip, but with the SIG I know now it is (was) my anticipating of the striker release; I would pause just before the striker would release, then apply the little more pressure required to do so (bad).
The Glock trigger is much shorter so that is why I wasn't able to pinpoint the problem.
I was doing the same thing with the DAO pull, I'd briefly pause just before the hammer would fall and I'd frequently get the front sight movement.
If not for my new Sig I'd still be unaware. Thanks to the long-lighter than normal pull I feel I've already improved. It is safe to say had I not got this pistol I'd still be adjusting my grip and trying different shooting positions ...LOL!
The true test will be this weekend at the range
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I also have a Sig P226R DAK and it has taken some getting used to. Some of my buddies have tried it and hated it. its not a true DAO, but a better trigger for its purpose. For recreational shooters a Glock is more than sufficient.
I do agree that shooting teh DAK often will improove one's DA/SA shooting. The first shot improves in DA/SA ...
I see the Vancouver PD guys shoot their Sig P226 DAK's in 40S&W with consistent accuracy....
I do agree that shooting teh DAK often will improove one's DA/SA shooting. The first shot improves in DA/SA ...
I see the Vancouver PD guys shoot their Sig P226 DAK's in 40S&W with consistent accuracy....
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I have a 226 DAK in 9 mm. Bought in in Jul 07. The trigger/new pistol takes a bit of time to get used to but to me it is like every other weapon - they all a bit different.
I tried the DA/SA 226 9mm, and I found the DA was too long and SA was too short. Therefore, the DAK was the best of both worlds for me. Each person is a bit different, and there is no right or wrong. The main thing is whether DAK is right for you.
If you are in southern AB and want to try it, PM me.
I have a 226 DAK in 9 mm. Bought in in Jul 07. The trigger/new pistol takes a bit of time to get used to but to me it is like every other weapon - they all a bit different.
I tried the DA/SA 226 9mm, and I found the DA was too long and SA was too short. Therefore, the DAK was the best of both worlds for me. Each person is a bit different, and there is no right or wrong. The main thing is whether DAK is right for you.
If you are in southern AB and want to try it, PM me.
Not really sure what you are talking about unless you are referring to the "Pro" series. The only parts that have been modified for the "DAK" trigger are the The sear, the sear spring,the hammer,the hammer strut, the safety lever and the trigger bar for the classic "P" series pistols. Most of those changes are only to remove the S/A function.
The dissassembly and assembly is almost identical to the classic series. The only signifigant difference in the disassembly sequence is the removal of the trigger bar and hammer pivot pin and hammer at different points. I've never seen a "peened" pin on any "P" series pistol.
Can't speak for folks who simply use it at the range and therefore SA may be better suited, but as an everyday 'workhorse', the Sig with the DAK trigger inspires confidence with it's very smooth trigger. Have used both the .40 cal P226 and the P239. Both have excellent triggers with different weights. I understand the P226 has a 'shorter' trigger assembly for those with smaller hands and the feedback has been good as well.
It sure is a move up from the Beretta 96Ds....
It sure is a move up from the Beretta 96Ds....
As a range gun don't get DAO 
My work S&W 5946 has this. While I'm sure the Sig DAO is both lighter and better, I would recommend SAO for target shooting and D/S for mixed stuff at the range.
One comment you always see are how such and such police suck at the range. Target shooting with a short DAO pistol just sucks. It takes longer for each shot, and you have to hold that sight picture for a long time.
The only plus side is when you can shoot this type of pistol, the SAO pistols sure are easy and fun.
My work S&W 5946 has this. While I'm sure the Sig DAO is both lighter and better, I would recommend SAO for target shooting and D/S for mixed stuff at the range.
One comment you always see are how such and such police suck at the range. Target shooting with a short DAO pistol just sucks. It takes longer for each shot, and you have to hold that sight picture for a long time.
The only plus side is when you can shoot this type of pistol, the SAO pistols sure are easy and fun.
