Sig Fury 277 - new 3pc case design rated for 80,000 PSI

I put some videos on here a little while back...nobody had any comments.

I agree that it will be the future!
 
Sound very interesting, however very much like the 270 WSM, with the exception of the stainless head of the case.
 
hawk-i said:
I agree that it will be the future!
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Nope. Steel case heads and brass casing combos have been around, come and gone. You see anyone using them now? It solves a problem most shooters wont care about, just like layered powder, flash tube priming, etc. Add to the fact to drive the pressure up means you still need a gun that can handle it, possible throat issues etc, and its just another interesting attempt to answer a problem no one will want to pay for when Winchester White box is a 1/3 the price.
 
Dosing said:
Nope. Steel case heads and brass casing combos have been around, come and gone. You see anyone using them now? It solves a problem most shooters wont care about, just like layered powder, flash tube priming, etc. Add to the fact to drive the pressure up means you still need a gun that can handle it, possible throat issues etc, and its just another interesting attempt to answer a problem no one will want to pay for when Winchester White box is a 1/3 the price.
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The main advantage that I see to using this higher pressure case is you can use an extremely short barrel and still get long barrel velocities...will make a great hunting combo and military combo.

I'm not sure exactly how much it will gain but lets say I've got a 308 win sized case and a 16 inch barrel getting 300 wm 26" barrel velocities ...I'd buy that for sure....:)
 
hawk-i said:
The main advantage that I see to using this higher pressure case is you can use an extremely short barrel and still get long barrel velocities...will make a great hunting combo and military combo.

I'm not sure exactly how much it will gain but lets say I've got a 308 win sized case and a 16 inch barrel getting 300 wm 26" barrel velocities ...I'd buy that for sure....:)
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You really think a 16 inch barrel would be a big advantage over a 22 or 23?
 
At 80,000 PSI sounds like an SonicCrackenboom Eargaspliten device

Just not interested!!
 
hawk-i said:
The main advantage that I see to using this higher pressure case is you can use an extremely short barrel and still get long barrel velocities...will make a great hunting combo and military combo.

I'm not sure exactly how much it will gain but lets say I've got a 308 win sized case and a 16 inch barrel getting 300 wm 26" barrel velocities ...I'd buy that for sure....:)
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Short barrelled guns handle more pressure?
Still need an action to contain the kaboom.
 
shakeyjake said:
Short barrelled guns handle more pressure?
Still need an action to contain the kaboom.
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Will when they build a gun to use this case configuration, I'm sure the action will be designed to handle the 80,000 PSI pressure...don't ya think?
 
It's designed for the US Military... and they can afford it and the barrels it will burn out...

I don't foresee a big civilian market...
 
hawk-i said:
Will when they build a gun to use this case configuration, I'm sure the action will be designed to handle the 80,000 PSI pressure...don't ya think?
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They did, and it's hideous but the problem is going to be when guys want to build their own from a non-SIG action.
 
rkm456 said:
They did, and it's hideous but the problem is going to be when guys want to build their own from a non-SIG action.
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Well, actually hideous is in the eye of the beholder and the Sig guy said they tested a lot of actions....rem 700 will handle the high pressure of this cartridge and so will a bunch of others but they don't recommend it as they've not tested long term (as in many rounds).

The Sig cross in 277 Fury is not much different aesthetically than a multitude of other chassis guns but one important difference the way I view it is the one piece receiver...like in no bedding or mating to a stock or lower...and weighs in at 6.2 lbs...and did I mention, its short.

I can see the advantage of a relatively light and short magnum performing rifle for mountain hunting or any hunting where you have to pack steep grades or thick timber...dead fall, a heavy pack, and a rifle strapped to it aren't one of the great pleasures in life.

Anyways, all this is only my 2 cents worth on the subject! :)
 
At my local range I see guys covered in sweat and pasty faced as they stare through their huge scope and hoping, praying, offering up promises to Satan........that they hit the 12" gong at 75 yards because their buddy just did and it only took them 39 shots. So I don't think the average guy needs more pressure
 
There is a term that comes to mind called "Brute force engineering"

It basically defines a raw simple mindset of limited thinking that says "if a little power is good, then a lot is much better".

A more elegant (and challenging) solution would be to take what power that currently can be safely and comfortably generated and seek to make it more efficient. The firearms industry shows signs that it is starting to do that via new bullet and barrel design.

The "just apply more force" is backward outmoded thinking.
 
Heddok said:
At my local range I see guys covered in sweat and pasty faced as they stare through their huge scope and hoping, praying, offering up promises to Satan........that they hit the 12" gong at 75 yards because their buddy just did and it only took them 39 shots. So I don't think the average guy needs more pressure
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ain't that the truth...
 
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