SIG owners I need your help I may have a cracked/chipped slide!!!

[cybershooters]

The early P226s did have problems with the rail design on the frame. Somewhere around U150000 they got it sorted, IIRC. I did have the exact number at one time, it was U149### I think. There are only a couple of dozen P226s with serial numbers below U100000, by the way.

On the subject of breechblock failure, it does happen but its extremely rare. Around 1996 Sauer redesigned the breechblock to make the fractures less likely and also so that the roll pins didn't get bent and break. I've had pins break, but not with the new breechblock. Guy I used to shoot with had the breechblock in a P225 break in half.

The more interesting failure is having the gun go off when its decocked. I've only ever found one credible case of that happening and I personally think there must have been something seriously wrong with the gun.

 

[ian_in_vic]

Sorry you will need to provide a little more info here if that claim is to be believable. What type of gun, what department, what conditions, what problems. The P226 platform is well regarded internationally, and well proven. Given that many BC departments adopted the Beretta in preference, I truely doubt that it was based on SIG failures but rather on salesmanship.

I believe that the RCMP ERT in the lower mainland had some frame rails crack, but this was only with the very early ones issued - most officers at this time were carrying S&W M10's. It was rumoured at the time that they were training with " IVI SMG" ammo (what ever that is) These were among the first P-226 pistols issued, and SIG replaced the pistols very quickly with no questions asked, according to an officer I shot with at the time. (He was really impressed and probably still shoots the one he purchased as a result)

 

[Orvis]

I just purchased my new 226R in 40S&W which hasn't been fired yet.
It too has the groove. It's definitely not a chip.
Would all of those who have the same groove own a 226 in .40S&W?
I was just wondering if it is done to accomodate the larger barrel?

 

[RePete]

I believe that the RCMP ERT in the lower mainland had some frame rails crack, but this was only with the very early ones issued - most officers at this time were carrying S&W M10's. It was rumoured at the time that they were training with " IVI SMG" ammo (what ever that is) QUOTE]

IVI SMG ammo is what the CF use, and it's way too hot for the SIG's.

CF went and inventoried ammo for the SIG.

The MP's are using Fed 9mm ammo for their SIG's.

 

[Globetrotter]

The early P226s did have problems with the rail design on the frame. Somewhere around U150000 they got it sorted, IIRC. I did have the exact number at one time, it was U149### I think. There are only a couple of dozen P226s with serial numbers below U100000, by the way.

On the subject of breechblock failure, it does happen but its extremely rare. Around 1996 Sauer redesigned the breechblock to make the fractures less likely and also so that the roll pins didn't get bent and break. I've had pins break, but not with the new breechblock. Guy I used to shoot with had the breechblock in a P225 break in half.

The more interesting failure is having the gun go off when its decocked. I've only ever found one credible case of that happening and I personally think there must have been something seriously wrong with the gun.

I am really glad to hear that. No wonder. My SIG's serial # is U 108### !

 

[Globetrotter]

I believe that the RCMP ERT in the lower mainland had some frame rails crack, but this was only with the very early ones issued - most officers at this time were carrying S&W M10's. It was rumoured at the time that they were training with " IVI SMG" ammo (what ever that is) QUOTE]

IVI SMG ammo is what the CF use, and it's way too hot for the SIG's.

CF went and inventoried ammo for the SIG.

The MP's are using Fed 9mm ammo for their SIG's.

Corresponding to my Canadian Army friends, there is no distinction between
9x19 special SMG rounds and the ones they use in their Hi-Power Pistols.
The Canadian loadings are of the same pressure as the European ones.
The Americans had always lower power levels for their 9mm Para ammo,
fearing that so many surplus guns in this caliber may not stand up safely.
Funny, now the Europeans "accuse" us here, that we are overloading their guns.

 

[Globetrotter]

Cracked rail on SIG 226 frames

]Besides my slide problems, I had also the entire right frame rail cracked
and finally fell off.
A few days ago, I had enough of sitting on a worthless frame, and
made my own "insert" from steel for about 1.625" of length, pinned
it from the top with 3 very small bearing pins, and re-set at the bottom.
The machining (milling) was tedious , but worthwhile.
I tested it with 10 rounds only and with the Norinco Slide on it.
Works perfect so far, a little bit tighter now, and will range-test now, usually 400 rounds.

 

[cim330]

my new 226R 9mm looks exactly the same

 

[Memnoch]

My 226 also have that groove. It is normal.