Sig P226 DAK

Sig 226 Dak

From a fellow newbie in S. West Ontario - I purchased my SIG 226 DAK thru wolverine in Alberta. Ran into the same problems with supply so just started calling around to find someone with one in stock. The price was just over 1,000 with shipping in and I had it in hand ni about 2 weeks. I used to shoot some revolver and the trigger action is similar, same pull 6.5 lbs all the time and consistent. A buddy who is ex USG form Caymans has a 226 with SA/DA and he says his next purchase will be one with the DAK trigger. The SA/DA seems to have quite a bit of trigger slack to pick up after your first shot which can throw you off a bit I found. As has been said it's a SIG so you can't go wrong!!
J.T. :canadaFlag:
 
as I said above, tell that to Vancouver PD, to say that they are experiencing "growing pains" with their DAK's would be an understatement.
 
I have a P226 on the way in DA/SA of course...;)

there's no way I'm going to put up with 6.5lb trigger when I can have a 4.5lbs. I plan to use it so the first heavy trigger pull (9lbs big deal!) is nothing :)
 
WithoutWarning said:
Yes Boltgun, that was one of the first things I noticed.
I thought it was just me.
My question to you if you know and having taken the
armorer's course is; why?
Was it designed like that for a reason or that's just the way it turned out ?

...WW
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I've been reading over the DAK threads and noticed that the trigger system has not been articulated yet, so I'm posting this info for anyone who's interested.

The Double Action Kellerman system was designed for law enforcement as a compromise between the safety and simplicity of DAO and the ease and tactical advantage of DA/SA (the SA part of DA/SA, that is). It is more than simply a light DAO. The first DA pull is 6.6 lbs, but the sear has two reset points, one being the halfway or so reset that takes the pull up to 8.3 lbs. Kellerman came up with an equation that trades length for weight to roughly equal the same trigger pull effort each time. So multiple shots from hammer-down holster are faster and easier than straight DAO, yet more consistent than DA/SA.

A shooter can always choose to ignore the halfway reset and let the trigger reset all the way forward, which will reduce the pull weight to 6.6 lbs again. This explains the two "clicks" experienced during full trigger reset. As someone mentioned earlier, if you dry fire a DAK without partially cocking the hammer first, the pull will feel deceptively long and heavy, and you will notice the extra click during trigger pulls, but not during resets. So technically there are 3 different trigger pulls in the DAK system; a longer 6.6 lbs, a shorter 8.3 lbs, and a longer 8.3 lbs that can only happen during dry firing. Whenever a round is chambered, the hammer will be partially cocked and the first pull will always be 6.6 lbs.

Also mentioned earlier, some options for changing/improving the trigger pull include installing a Sig short trigger, polishing up the internal contact points, and installing a reduced power main spring. DAK uses an extra heavy main spring, as the system does not compress the spring as much as traditional DA/SA Sigs do. So even installing a DA/SA main spring will lighten the pull, but of course the chance of light primer strikes increases the lighter you go.

If anyone is interested in doing any of this work themselves, I can provide detailed disassembly instructions via email, but I highly recommend picking up a copy of the Sig Armorer's DVD.
 
Slavex said:
as I said above, tell that to Vancouver PD, to say that they are experiencing "growing pains" with their DAK's would be an understatement.
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Slavex,
Are you referring to reliability issues or training ie: more trigger time issues. Edmonton's Tactical Unit changed from Glocks to Sigs w/ the DAK and once the change in trigger pull was familiarized with, they were shooting just as accurate with the Sig as the Glock.
 
WoW BKJedi !!!

I had decide on a P229 with SRT trigger but you are showing me a different light with that DAK . Anyway I don't carry or work with a gun, for me it's only range fun, I still gonna go with DA/SA.

Mush
 
I love my P229 with DAK. That being said, be prepared to put a boatload of rounds down range before you get comfortable with it.
 
I have both a 226 and a 229 with the DAK system. It's true it does take some time to get used to the DAK but it will make you focus on the fundementals and ultimately make you a better shot.
I have found that the trigger gets better and smoother as you put more rounds down range.
 
Slavex said:
VPD has some they'd probably like to get rid of. Another great choice in a firearm.
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Are you saying that the Vancouver Police Firearms Section made a poor choice in selecting the Sig DAK series? :confused:

Slavex said:
as I said above, tell that to Vancouver PD, to say
that they are experiencing "growing pains" with their DAK's would be an understatement.
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I am curious how you came to this conclusion.

EC said:
Slavex,
Are you referring to reliability issues or training ie: more trigger time issues. Edmonton's Tactical Unit changed from Glocks to Sigs w/ the DAK and once the change in trigger pull was familiarized with, they were shooting just as accurate with the Sig as the Glock.
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Respectfully Slavex, as with EC would you please elaborate on your statements?
 
EC said:
Slavex,
Are you referring to reliability issues or training ie: more trigger time issues. Edmonton's Tactical Unit changed from Glocks to Sigs w/ the DAK and once the change in trigger pull was familiarized with, they were shooting just as accurate with the Sig as the Glock.
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Slavex, Waiting for a response regarding your statement. I have trained with some VPD Snipers and they had no issue with their pistols.
 
The Double Action Kellerman system was designed for law enforcement as a compromise between the safety and simplicity of DAO and the ease and tactical advantage of DA/SA (the SA part of DA/SA, that is). It is more than simply a light DAO. The first DA pull is 6.6 lbs, but the sear has two reset points, one being the halfway or so reset that takes the pull up to 8.3 lbs
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I just purchased a 226 DAK and found it to be a great piece. Little transitional training required as I have shot revolver more than semi's. My big question is with the trigger pull weight. My RCBS trigger pull gauge maxes out at 12 pounds yet it will not pull the trigger all the way back. However, the trigger does feel much lighter and smoother than the gauge indicates. I completely stripped and very lightly polished all the contact points, but still the same results with the trigger pull gauge. Any suggestions? I will try a lighter hammer spring next. The gauge is accurate when tested with known wieghts. Help please.

Mustang Frank
 
I would not suggest going to a "lighter" main spring. Sig went to the heavier (red) DAK spring in response to problems with light primer strikes. I'm not really sure how you are measuring the trigger pull but there is no way that it exceeds 12 pounds.
 
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