SIG P226 prices

[MPower]

Is it just me or is this the way to get around the high price of SIGs.

Purchase the SIG classic .22LR pistol for $609, then purchase a SIG caliber x-change kit for $515 and you get to have one complete pistol that can shoot 2 different calibers for $1125?

Why would anyone just spend $1100+ for any SIG pistol? And then spend $485 on their .22LR rimfire conversion kit for a total of $1585+ is beyond me!

Does this make any sense? Or am I "way out there"?

Are the frames on the classis .22s the EXACT same frame on their other pistols? If they are, then I just don't see why anyone would purchase a non-rimfire SIG pistol on its own when you could get both.

Just my .02 cents.

 

[skullnuts]

yeah frame is the same size... I think alot of people including myself are not interested in shooting .22 .. but it is a wicked set up if you like .22 .. shooting the same gun all the time is a bonus for sure ...

 

[Sp0r3]

As skullnuts said, some are not interested in shooting .22lr. And the 226 .22LR with 9mm conversion kit is just a regular 9mm 226R. For the extra money "saved", some would rather purchase a variant of the 226 (Elite, E2, Equinox, etc) or extra ammo.

That said, I'm waiting for my 226 .22LR and 9mm kit to arrive at my doorstep I think it would be a fantastic purchase.

 

[HW77Shooter]

I considered doing exactly that when I bought my P226. From a financial point of view, it seems like a no-brainer. In the end, I ended up with a P226 9mm and a .22 kit, because my local dealer couldn't seem to get a P226 in .22 in stock.

However, now that I have it in hand, I'm glad I did it the more "traditional" way. The 9mm slide works like precision butter, but the .22 slide is like gravel. In the beginning I had a lot of problems getting it to go into battery properly, and it continues to be a bit balky, even a few 1000 rounds later. Also, I have a heck of a time getting the thing on. The 9mm slide goes on first time every time, but with the .22 slide I end up standing there fiddling with the take-down lever trying to get it to go on.

I really have no idea if this is a) because the .22 slides aren't as good, or b) the OEM slide spend some time together in the factory and will always fit better than after-market slides. (I suspect the latter.) To get back to the original point, if the slide that comes with the frame is the one that's going to work the best, I'm sure glad it's the 9mm and not the other way around.

 

[Danimal247]

I would rather purchase the 9mm and get a .22 conversion than the other way around. get it mated with the 9mm slide at the factory because they will ensure it functions correctly and that way if the .22 is a little iffy its not a big deal because you its a fun toy

 

[BP7]

would be nice to buy a normal 226 for around 600-800 at most, regardless of the whole 22 thing.

as to slide fit - i'd assume that if parts are made to tight tolerances, that they'd be more interchangeable since there's less chance of either interference or excess slop

 

[Danimal247]

would be nice to buy a normal 226 for around 600-800 at most, regardless of the whole 22 thing.

as to slide fit - i'd assume that if parts are made to tight tolerances, that they'd be more interchangeable since there's less chance of either interference or excess slop

there have been a lot of issues with the .22 slide binding on the 9mm gun, sort of unfortunate and it's pretty much the only thing holding me back from buying the .22conversion brand new

 

[stevehester]

would be nice to buy a normal 226 for around 600-800 at most, regardless of the whole 22 thing.

+1 for that...
i've got a 226-EQ in .40 that cost too much

but i like it so much i'm planning on getting the classic 22 and the 9mm calibre exchange shortly as well. aside from the longer wait it's like getting the .22lr for free
not that i'm harping on them, but even the 226 cpo's are ~800+.

 

[Morley]

Hello everyone.

I posted the question under another thread and I don't know if nobody is looking at that thread, or if nobody knows the answer..... Here is is for someone to hopefully answer:
I just purchased a mishmash mix from another CGN'er. It's a Norinco NP-58. It has a Sig 9mm barrel and a Dlask slide. Its not even cleared CFO yet, so I can't answer any questions anyone might have for me, but my question is if a .22LR conversion from Sig will fit the Norinco stock. I think it would be great if I could go that route.

I hope somebody has answers for me, and I hope its the answer I want.

~Morley

 

[tjhaile]

would be nice to buy a normal 226 for around 600-800 at most, regardless of the whole 22 thing.

as to slide fit - i'd assume that if parts are made to tight tolerances, that they'd be more interchangeable since there's less chance of either interference or excess slop

Wolverine Supplies is advertising refurbished P226s for $850 in either 9mm or .40 in the latest Canadian Access to Firearms. Given that these are more likely to be older models and SIG's QC has been slipping on recent US production, this might be the better way to go if you must have a SIG.

 

[BP7]

used / CPO Sigs are getting reasonable as far as price point, but still it's a USED GUN. ditto for EE, where prices for used ones are basically the same as new 85% of the time.

must have a Sig? i'd say more like really want a Sig, in 9mm to contrast the .40 Glock that I use. but at those prices, i'm contemplating a Norc copy at 1/3rd the cost. that's a mighty big difference.

 

[misanthropist]

But a used and rebuilt German Sig is a much nicer gun than a Norinco copy...and the mags are actual Sig mags, not the garbage Chinese mags. This isn't a big deal with 1911s where mags are relatively cheap and easy to come by but with $50-60 Sig mags it really matters.

I bought a German sig recently with minimal holster wear and that's it...internals are mint (not surprising on the CPO guns) with 4 Mec-Gar mags for under $600.

Figure that buying a Nork + 4 quality mags would cost you $550+tax, assuming the mags were $50 each and shipped for free...often the mags are closer to $60 and may not ship from the same supplier as the pistol so could word out to more like $75 once you figure in taxes and shipping...so $300 in mags and $400+ for the Nork after taxes and shipping.

So if you actually intend to run your gun, and therefore need quality mags, the cost difference between a Norinco Sig knockoff and an actual West German Sig - incidentally most serious Sig guys believe these to be the best of the Sigs - is negligible, or possibly in favour of the actual Sig. For this reason I think buying the Norinco version is frankly nuts.

 

[skullnuts]

there are reports that the .22 conversion kit ..does not lock the slide back after an empty mag .. but I think it its all good if you buy the 22 and get the 9mm or 40 conversion kit .. the kits only come with one mag . not 100% on the slide issue ..maybe someone who owns one can comment!!

 

[sheetmetalglock]

would be nice to buy a normal 226 for around 600-800 at most, regardless of the whole 22 thing.

as to slide fit - i'd assume that if parts are made to tight tolerances, that they'd be more interchangeable since there's less chance of either interference or excess slop

I agree, guns = cash, Cash = guns. Hence it is fully interchangeable.
Its a simple E=mc square type of thing actually

 

[fugawi]

Wolverine Supplies is advertising refurbished P226s for $850 in either 9mm or .40 in the latest Canadian Access to Firearms. Given that these are more likely to be older models and SIG's QC has been slipping on recent US production, this might be the better way to go if you must have a SIG.

x2 My understanding is that these are SIG certified guns checked by SIG armours and reconditioned where necessary.

 

[Sp0r3]

there are reports that the .22 conversion kit ..does not lock the slide back after an empty mag .. but I think it its all good if you buy the 22 and get the 9mm or 40 conversion kit .. the kits only come with one mag . not 100% on the slide issue ..maybe someone who owns one can comment!!

I don't have mine yet but I've been reading about that as well. Many sources confirm that the slide does not lock back after the last round is fired. There is, however, a mag follower which can simulate the slide stop by having the follower block the path of the slide after the last round. That way, you will know the mag is empty. But the .22lr kit is not designed to have the slide pull back on last round.

 

[Colin]

To get the .22 slide on and rotate the takedown lever, push on the barrel and it will turn. I love my .22 kit onto of my 226Stainless it’s a great feeling gun and beginners love shooting it. As for the comments about nork mags, I have quite few for my guns and they have never failed to work. In fact the nork mags for my 1911 work better than the colt one I have. Plus they are all metal as opposed to plastic/metal. Sig mags are overpriced. The price for their rather low quality .22cal mags is silly, I had to sand mine to make it work properly. The fact they couldn’t figure out how to make it hold the slide back is also not very impressive. I love Sigs but they have been coasting on their rep for awhile.

 

[Rivalen]

Is it just me or is this the way to get around the high price of SIGs.

Purchase the SIG classic .22LR pistol for $609, then purchase a SIG caliber x-change kit for $515 and you get to have one complete pistol that can shoot 2 different calibers for $1125?

Why would anyone just spend $1100+ for any SIG pistol? And then spend $485 on their .22LR rimfire conversion kit for a total of $1585+ is beyond me!

Does this make any sense? Or am I "way out there"?

Are the frames on the classis .22s the EXACT same frame on their other pistols? If they are, then I just don't see why anyone would purchase a non-rimfire SIG pistol on its own when you could get both.

Just my .02 cents.

IMO, get a P226 22lr classic for 600$, get a conversion unit for 515$ and then sell the brand new 22lr upper + mag for like 350-400 on EE. Sounds like a good deal now?

 

[Liquid_Snake]

If you use your sig as a every day carry its best to get used to that pistol as much as you can. I own a sig but it has no .22 kit but a few of my other pistols do have a .22kit and for me to fire .40 or .45 all day would break the bank for me . But the more you use your pistol the better you become and faster you are. When I first started with a pistol it would take me a while to drop mags chamber rounds and what not after 5000+ rounds I am super fast and having the exact same functions and fame wont screw up your mind in a life or death situation

 

[misanthropist]

To get the .22 slide on and rotate the takedown lever, push on the barrel and it will turn. I love my .22 kit onto of my 226Stainless it’s a great feeling gun and beginners love shooting it. As for the comments about nork mags, I have quite few for my guns and they have never failed to work. In fact the nork mags for my 1911 work better than the colt one I have. Plus they are all metal as opposed to plastic/metal. Sig mags are overpriced. The price for their rather low quality .22cal mags is silly, I had to sand mine to make it work properly. The fact they couldn’t figure out how to make it hold the slide back is also not very impressive. I love Sigs but they have been coasting on their rep for awhile.

I definitely agree that Sig mags are overpriced but I have blown the floorplates off of 3 different Norinco mags when they hit the ground (empty).

I will use Norinco guns but not the mags.

I also agree about Sig and the coasting on the rep thing...their downhill slide has been a regular topic in some circles for several years. One guy describes them as having "Kimber Disease" - i.e. they put out a million models with flaky colour choices and pointless options, but don't address their increasingly notorious QC issues.

That's part of the benefit of buying older Sigs...you don't get the newer Sigs.