SIG P239 TAC 9mm - start the countdown! (NOW HERE!)

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I ordered one of the 239's that Questar is bringing in. Can't wait! It is supposed to arrive on October 15th. :dancingbanana: (Arrive at Questar that is... arrive at my place - end of the month might be optimistic - still can`t wait!)

I've been looking around the net for awhile, trying to find a picture of what they look like (the TAC model with the threaded barrel that is). Anyway, I found one tonight... it looks cool!
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Nitron finish, Night Sights, Threaded Barrel, SRT Trigger, front cocking serrations

I`m not sure if this is the exact model that Questar is getting, but hopefully. I like the look of this one. Other dealers should be able to get them too... at least from what I am hearing on the net. Anybody else got one one order... or is at least interested to pick one up?

The webpage the pics comes from is:
http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/350601935/m/7351017331/p/1

Edit: I see now that it is on Topgunsupply`s website as well now:
http://www.topgunsupply.com/handguns-sig-sauer_p239/

Isn`t it great that we are finally getting something a bit exotic up here... other than the P7`s, the P2000`s, the 229`s... humm I`m listing off all my guns :D
 
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ghostie, wicked. that is better than i thought it would look. i thought the threaded barrel would be alot longer.but that looks good. maybe i will wait for your review before i make an order,
 
I have one on order too. The pic looks good but I'm hoping it comes with a thread protector.
I really wish the Gen 2 229 SAS was availiable here. The Gen 2 is SA/DA with the SRT trigger and is non-railed and of course has the "melt job" on the slide.
 
Damn,

I thought I had fulfilled my love of small guns with the P7M8 and the P2000.

Now this....
 
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Will Questar be bringing in the 10 rd mags with it?
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I believe their website is just listing the 8 round mags, but SIG mags are a very easy to obtain bit of kit. You can get them from both Brownells and Numrich no problem. It is nice to support Canadian dealers, but I find that they generally don't stock a lot of what I am looking for anyway. Certainly that can be said for 95% of what I am looking for with regard to the Vancouver and area shops I frequent. Numrich has some of the 10 round 239 mags very cheap ($20 each). I think they are twice that much at Brownells. I have two of the Numrich 10-rounders on the way already. The gun comes with two 8-rounders. When the 239 arrives, I will of course post a big review for you guys with a lot of pics, showing how big the grip is, how the gun compares to the 229, what the 8 and 10 rounders look like, etc.

I'm pretty stoked to try this gun out - people on the U.S. online boards seem to rave about them (and the 228s, the 225s the 229s, and all the others really). Supposedly very accurate for a small gun (same can definitely be said about the 229s). I have been a massive fan of the 229s since we got them in Canada (the ones that started coming in the Spring of 2007), but I have never had the opportunity to try the 225, the 239 or other single stack SIGs of this general type (I have tried the 210, which is single stack, but that is a totally different animal). The 239 is something like a quarter inch slimmer than the 229/226. It should be fun.

Edit: SIG website says 1.2 inch wide for the 239, and 1.5 inch wide for the 226 and 229.
 
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ghostie said:
I believe their website is just listing the 8 round mags, but SIG mags are a very easy to obtain bit of kit. You can get them from both Brownells and Numrich no problem.
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Yesterday I tried ordering PSI mags for my P220 from Brownells. Can't ship to Canada.:mad: It was the same for Sig and Novak mags as well. The manufacturers don't have some special export license so Brownells can't export their product. The day before Sig phoned me to let me know they received the warranty registration card for my new 220 and as a thank you, offered me 8 round mags for half price. When I said sure and started the order process, the girl said "Oh wait... your in Canada. Sorry, we can't ship to Canada". What a bunch of BS! My local dealer hit the same brickwall from Brownells the week before.
 
OK, so its not just me, i tried to order some stupid small parts from brownells too, and got the same thing . sig hasnt put in the registration for the export permit ,and ALOT of other companies havent either i think the days of ordering mags from the states will come to an end for us non dealers very soon. and were talking all parts, i tried to get a spring and some other small lever both parts were like 5 and 30 dollars .but no go. mags are a deff no go. so guess we will have to sweat it out for a little while till them americans get there $h!t sorted out.. you would think in these trying times for them they would be glad to sell to us canadians, but noooo.. they like to do things the hard way...
 
Yah, o.k. that confirms it then Brownells has gone sideways for us Canadians. I have gotten a lot of stuff from them over the years - indluding P229 mags within the last few months - but I ordered a SIG trigger bar from there in September and they wouldn't do it. I went to Numrich 2 days later and it was fine. Numrich seems to still be working fine. I am seriously considering ordering all the parts I think I might need in the coming years - but that is so lame. :mad: Constantly living in a climate of "waiting for the music to stop" is not one of the pleasant parts of shooting sports. I will let you guys know if there is any problem with my current Numrich order.

Edit: My Numrich order shipped out as of today. I am really hoping that this place stays available to Canadians. It is one of the few I have found. When I tried to order extended floorplates for my P2000 I got rejected by like 3 places before going through Wolverine on this side of the line. I was looking for someone who just had them in stock and could pop them in the mail - but that was a pipe dream. Between Brownells and Numrich, originally I thought that Brownells was the better place and that Numrich had mostly inflated prices, but there are some awesome deals on Numrich if you look around long enough. Also, with regard to Questar and the 239 mags - they are listing both the 8 and 10 round 9mm mags for the 239 at $49.14 - which is pretty reasonable I guess. I want to do what I can to support the CGN sponsors. It really feels like a storm is coming. Get out there and vote guys! (on both sides of the border) I'm a lawyer for God sakes. I have sworn an oath before a BC Supreme Court Judge. If society can't trust me, then our society is a failure. And it is really no different for all you other guys and gals out there. I mean, what do we have on this board? Cops, sheriffs, corrections officers, conservation officers and every other cop-like profession you can think of - and they get treated the same as the rest of us. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, civil servants, every profession in the book, and a lot of really really decent people from all walks of life. Hopefully my blood pressure will go down a bit on Tuesday night.
 
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good luck ghostie, let us know if you find any other places that will ship to us, in times like this , god bless the internet.
 
The issue with Brownells is more than just the lack of "Manufacturer Registrations" being kept updated. We also ran into this with some of our manufacturers and we addressed it in most cases (though we never had an issue with SIG permits so I would question Brownells' statement that SIG wasn't current with their registration.

I think what you are seeing with Brownells is two issues:

First, it's becoming harder to get the export permits because State Department now wants the applicant to first confirm that the product manufacturer has current Manufacturer Registration status with DDTC and many of the small products they sell can't meet that requirement so their internal costs to processe export permits have gone sky high.

Second, the US State Department just announced new fees for exporters and those fees are increasing by huge amounts. We're not talking double or triple we're talking 1,000% and in some cases much much more. Based on the new fee structure a company like Brownells is seeing the fee to renew their export registration increase from $1,750 per year to something in excess of $100,000 per year. Brownells won't be able to afford to renew the export registration and the users buying small parts for export aren't going to pay the fees that US State Department is now charging for every export permit application that is submitted.

This is why I suspect Brownells and many others are going to be stopping all exports... not just to Canada but all exports to everywhere. The US is essentially shutting down their firearm exports by massively increasing their registration fees. They are doing it intentionally and with full understanding. The government is stating that they are simply trying to make the DDTC 75% self funding but that's a crock... they know exactly what they are doing and what the consequences will be. The large manufacturers will still be able to afford big export shipments but no-one will be able to afford to do little shipments or one-offs.

This started to playout last month and is going to get worse over the next few months as more and more exporters come up for renewal and can't afford to pay the renewal fee.

Mark
 
Thanks for the clarification Mark... and thanks to you and your staff for being one of the outfits that keep going to bat for Canadian gun owners.

When I tried to order the SIG trigger bar on September 2nd this is what the note came back as:

** NOTES ** SIR: HAVE CANCELLED YOUR ORDER AS THE
MANUFACTURE IS NOT REGISTERED WITH
OUR DEPT. OF STATE.

I had included some other items in with the trigger bar on the first order, and I wanted to see which item they were talking about, so I dropped everything but the trigger bar and tried it again the next day. The note was:

** NOTES ** WE HAVE CANCELLED ITEM 732-000-384
FROM YOUR ORDER. DUE TO THE DEPT. OF
STATE GUIDELINES. THE MANUFACTURER IS
NOT REGISTERED WITH THE DEPT. OF STATE

I then ordered from Numrich the next day, and it went through fine. I'm not sure if the trigger bar is actually made by SIG or what.

Are all you other guys that have been "declined" by Brownells getting the same type of message?
 
We processed an export permit for SIG Sauer products in late August/early September and that permit was approved so SIG was "Registered" at that time :)

I can tell you that we ran into this recently with DPMS... about 2 or 3 months ago State Department started sending back export applications with DPMS items saying that DPMS had not renewed their Manufacturers Registration. Our attempts to contact DPMS about this (phone messages and emails) went unanswered... so we finally just gave up.

This same problem was the reason we had a delay in getting the Tactical Solutions uppers to Canada... their registration was expired and we had to wait for them to renew.

Mark
 
Questar said:
The issue with Brownells is more than just the lack of "Manufacturer Registrations" being kept updated. We also ran into this with some of our manufacturers and we addressed it in most cases (though we never had an issue with SIG permits so I would question Brownells' statement that SIG wasn't current with their registration.

I think what you are seeing with Brownells is two issues:

First, it's becoming harder to get the export permits because State Department now wants the applicant to first confirm that the product manufacturer has current Manufacturer Registration status with DDTC and many of the small products they sell can't meet that requirement so their internal costs to processe export permits have gone sky high.

Second, the US State Department just announced new fees for exporters and those fees are increasing by huge amounts. We're not talking double or triple we're talking 1,000% and in some cases much much more. Based on the new fee structure a company like Brownells is seeing the fee to renew their export registration increase from $1,750 per year to something in excess of $100,000 per year. Brownells won't be able to afford to renew the export registration and the users buying small parts for export aren't going to pay the fees that US State Department is now charging for every export permit application that is submitted.

This is why I suspect Brownells and many others are going to be stopping all exports... not just to Canada but all exports to everywhere. The US is essentially shutting down their firearm exports by massively increasing their registration fees. They are doing it intentionally and with full understanding. The government is stating that they are simply trying to make the DDTC 75% self funding but that's a crock... they know exactly what they are doing and what the consequences will be. The large manufacturers will still be able to afford big export shipments but no-one will be able to afford to do little shipments or one-offs.

This started to playout last month and is going to get worse over the next few months as more and more exporters come up for renewal and can't afford to pay the renewal fee.

Mark
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Could numerous small exporters band together under a single export agency to handle their foreign sales, the way disparate Chinese factories sell their stuff under the Norinco name?
 
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