Sig Sauer sued by New Jersey for seling defective handguns to the State Police

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Well this is not encouraging. Et tu, Sig?

http://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/05/sig-sauer-sued-by-new-jersey-for-selling-defective-handguns-to-state-police/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=alt&utm_source=amn

(I usually copy and paste the text of such items, but trying that with American Military News just now practically locked down my computer and their site closed on me. I can take a hint, it seems they don't want that done.)
 
Fixed it for you :)

Comments on that article are amusing from readers.

Sig Sauer has been named in a $2.5 million lawsuit alleging the firearms manufacturer sold the New Jersey State Police defective pistols and then failed to fix the issue.

According to the lawsuit, Sig Sauer signed a contract to supply 3,000 handguns to New Jersey State Police in May, 2011. During initial testing there were no issues, but when Troopers used the new P229 pistols during a qualification session in September 2014, they experienced “Failure to Extract” malfunctions, according to the complaint filed in late April.

“The weapons failed to eject the spent shell casing from the barrel after being fired, causing the next cartridge to become jammed behind the casing, and resulting in an inability to continue firing the weapon (FTE),” the complaint read. “An FTE malfunction renders a gun unfit for police use because a Trooper may be unable to fire more than one round of ammunition in a life-threatening situation.”

For the next sixteen months Sig Sauer attempted multiple remedies to solve the problem including replacing the extracting pins and barrels and eventually replacing the guns themselves. The State Police tested the Sig Sauer P229 Legacy in 2011, but after signing a contract in 2014, they ended up sending a different version of the firearm, called the P229 Enhanced Elite. Even after the switch, the firearms were still malfunctioning during testing. After numerous failures, the training session was canceled.

In fear that state troopers safety would be jeopardized, the State Police abandoned the Sig Sauers on February 1, 2016 and awarded the contract to Glock.

For a full refund for the P229s, New Jersey is seeking $1.7 million and an additional $856,680 for accompanying holsters and the costs for testing and evaluating guns.
 
Limp wristing?

Possibly, or out-of spec cartridges. I'd want to see the problem more in-detail - slow-motion footage of the firing sequence, and that sort of thing. It's either:
- Extractor not grabbing the cartridge rim, or
- Slide not coming back far enough to completely extract the casing, or
- Casing not ejecting

Can't be rocket surgery.
 
I could one or two defective guns, but, all of them?! It sounds like an ammunition problem; maybe light loads?

It's funny, if these were Norinco the hates would be all over this! :)
 
Good on the state, all companies need to stand behind there product, this is one of the problems with the NRA, because they will allow zero negative firearms news, regardless of the facts and the court case will figure that out. If it is a sh!t gun it needs to be taken out of police service, end of story.
 
lol... every pistol can FTE, ammo issue is the first place I would look.

That said... I have had great experiences with my sigs.
any yes I have also had failures doe to carbon build up, but I would imagine that most police would not shoot enough to foul the gun.
 
It's the People's Republic of New Jersey - there's something political going on here (everything in NJ is political). Who supplied the ammo? Who's brother in law didn't get the gun contract? New Jersey is so left and so corrupt (assuming left and corrupt aren't the same thing) you just known there's something we're not hearing here - and I'm not a huge fan of Sig.
 
Limp wristing?

Limp wristing may cause cycling problems in some form but even the limpest wrist holding an auto pistol should still partially extract the case. Not leave it stuck fast in the chamber.
The fact that they said the slide is traveling rearward enough to re-#### the hammer pick up a new cartridge off the top of the magazine and ram it into the stuck case tells me it's probably not binding on the rails or an unlocking/barrel drop issue either.
This is a problem most likely with the extractor or maybe the barrel chambers of this batch out of spec etc Maybe badly machined extractor, extractor channel, extractor spring etc
At least that's where I would start.
And ammunition type obviously but would rule that out pretty quick based on nature of ammo.
 
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Good on the state, all companies need to stand behind there product, this is one of the problems with the NRA, because they will allow zero negative firearms news, regardless of the facts and the court case will figure that out. If it is a sh!t gun it needs to be taken out of police service, end of story.

Lol. Problem with NRA! Good one.
 
It's the People's Republic of New Jersey - there's something political going on here (everything in NJ is political). Who supplied the ammo? Who's brother in law didn't get the gun contract? New Jersey is so left and so corrupt (assuming left and corrupt aren't the same thing) you just known there's something we're not hearing here - and I'm not a huge fan of Sig.

Agreed.
 
I seem to recall a number of years ago that there were problems with Sigs where the slide rails were breaking. I believe the RCMP had some with these issues.
 
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