Sig Sauer won us army contract
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The modular design is so genius. Here's a pic of my P320 deassembled. Which takes less than 30 seconds to do.The trigger group is the serialized part. The rest of the parts are just paper weights. And for countries that only allow one firearm per household. This is a great way to counteract that.
Not overly modular as you would need a new slide/barrel assembly and grip/frame assembly to go from full size to compact. The only thing you transfer between the two is the guts. As for being a benefit for the "one gun per home" countries, they have a bigger problem to fix than not having modularity. There have been reports of sloppy guts in the 320 if the frame is swapped frequently. Will be interesting to see how that plays out in the long run.
Hey kid!! Do you own a P320? And what reports are you talking about? Don't believe everything you read on the internet and think you're some expert.
Not overly modular? You buy kits for it. Way cheaper than buying a complete pistol. So big plus.
Those Countries have a bigger problem to fix? It's the law. ONE GUN. Lol. Dude. You're hilarious. You have no clue.
I own a P320 and was giving first hand reports about it.
So please, go troll somewhere else.
Not overly modular? You buy kits for it. Way cheaper than buying a complete pistol. So big plus.
Those Countries have a bigger problem to fix? It's the law. ONE GUN. Lol. Dude. You're hilarious. You have no clue.
I own a P320 and was giving first hand reports about it.
So please, go troll somewhere else.
We can only hope.
On my bucket list for the version with the SIG OPTIC. Smart idea.
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Bob
Why would I buy/own a wannabe Glock? I have shot a buddies quite a bit and it isn't that great. Not sure how owning one has anything to do with critiquing the short comings. I don't own a bow(archery) but I know it's inferior to a firearm. I don't own a Ferrari but I know it will outrun my Honda.
I haven't seen any kits here in Canada but the ones I did find in the US are between $300-$400 US. I can find compact 320's(and full size) for $499 US. Not a huge savings if you ask me. For the minor price difference you could have two guns(except in countries where it isn't allowed... Really who cares). The bigger question I have to ask is this. If a compact pistol does the job just the same as a full size(which it does) then why bother with a full size to begin with??
Right, the squeek is the spring, not the spring rubbing on the guide rod. The factory spring is a flatwire spring which has hard edges unlike a typical round spring. That is where the POTENTIAL for wear on the guide rod comes in. It is my experience that there is negligible wear to the guide rod after many thousands of rounds.
Wannabe Glock....yeah...right....only a die hard Glock fanboy would use that analogy....as usual we all have our own opinions...i on the other hand sold my Glock...very much prefer the ergos and feel of the p320...and I'm looking forward to trying the X5....just sayin.
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Springs don't squeak when compressed. There has to be friction for noise to be generated. If you pull the recoil spring/guide rod out you'll see that the flat spring always touches the rod and does it more so when the spring is compressed* I only applied oil to the rod itself and after a couple cycles of the slide the noise was gone entirely.
*In this instance I'm talking about a Gen 3.
There are quite a few new cartridges that the US military is looking for and none of them are 7.62 NATO
How is it not a wannabe? It's a double action striker fired design, first popularized and made decent by Glock. The 320 has the same goofy toe on the front of the trigger guard just like a Glock. The slide stop is very small and unobtrusive just like a Glock. The only thing SIG did differently is offering a modular chassis which does nothing for performance or reliability. So SIG like Springfield, S&W, Walther, HK, CANIK, Beretta, FN, Ruger, Remington, Strike industries, CZ and others have done nothing to improve either performance or reliability with striker fired pistols, they've simply copied the base format and act like it's something new.
Glocks have been around for over 30 years and SIG, HK, Ruger, and others are just NOW figuring out that striker fired guns are an improvement? If these companies were so cutting edge they would have copied the recipe decades ago(like S&W who got sued for patent infringement). Instead they are simply hopping on the bandwagon in an attempt to capitalize on Glock's long standing reputation with striker fired guns. Even the abortion that is the Hudson H9 is trying to ride the wagon. Striker fired 1911 in 9mm, an attempt to make sales to the ignorant blind patriots that still think the 1911 is the greatest design out there but with the modern flair of striker fired.
The most ironic part about all of these wannabe offerings are the near identical similarities many share with a Glock. Back in the day people poo poo'd Glocks and talked sh*t about their control layout/design/size and said that polymer is cheap junk. Now every poly striker pistol out there shares at least a couple of those "bad" features and everyone is singing praises for their brand. The reality is that none of the wannabe offerings does anything better than a Glock and most don't come close to meeting the performance and reliability of a Glock.
As for "ergos" that is just window dressing. If you can shoot you can shoot anything, the interchangeable backstraps and minutely different grip angles etc etc are just marketing gimmicks. Either you can apply the fundamentals or you can't.
So what's your deal Kiddx? Are you so distraught that Glock didn't get the contract? I own pretty much all the higher end pistols, including a G17 RF2 which I love and will customize it soon. But the P320 beat out all the other competitors. Sure it can come down to the bottom line, but the military wouldn't choose a ####ty weapon to give their soldiers. I think they know what they're doing.
Maybe instead of bashing other members knowledgeable comments, you can contribute to it.
And as SPF Russia says...
AND AS ALWAYS. HAVE A NICE DAY.
Maybe instead of bashing other members knowledgeable comments, you can contribute to it.
And as SPF Russia says...
AND AS ALWAYS. HAVE A NICE DAY.
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Hey kiddx..by that definition alone Glock is a Hk wannabe...Hk was the first poly and first striker fired pistol...don't get me wrong..I like glocks well enough..there efficiency in nothing but awesome..it's just a big market with lots of talented manufacturers getting in on market share..I sure you enjoy your glocks..as you can be sure I'll enjoy my sig..have a great weekend..
As for "ergos" that is just window dressing. If you can shoot you can shoot anything, the interchangeable backstraps and minutely different grip angles etc etc are just marketing gimmicks. Either you can apply the fundamentals or you can't.[/QUOTE]
On this we agree completely...I have never understood the whole deal..never had a pistol that was ever an issue...some didn't fit my hand well...but that's just preference..
On this we agree completely...I have never understood the whole deal..never had a pistol that was ever an issue...some didn't fit my hand well...but that's just preference..
hatman1793
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The Army should have selected the very fine Beretta M9A3, or at least taken a note from the FBI and chosen the G17.
The Sig P320 is a wannabe-copy, even the S&W M&P is a better choice. Sig is just playing copy & dressup. Even the "new" so-called Legion is just a new finish, barely better trigger, P226.
The Sig P320 is a wannabe-copy, even the S&W M&P is a better choice. Sig is just playing copy & dressup. Even the "new" so-called Legion is just a new finish, barely better trigger, P226.
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Well... there are many reasons why they're tossing the M9 and one of them is the exposed barrel in desert/sand environments. M9A3 doesn't fix that.
I think the way they get around all the fitting and finishing, is the same as trying on boots, they will have 320's set up in the 6-12 or how ever many sizes and you go in to pick out the one that fits you and pull it out of stock. So grip b fits and lop trigger group 3 works, you order a b3, they are already warehoused assembled ready to go, same as boots! Trump will get his own special made 320 where he just has to squeeze the grip because of the small fingers!
I feel like I need to quote this so more attention is drawn to it.
The P320 is a wonderful handgun. It's fully ambidextrous straight out of the box, giving it the advantage over a glock. It's a Sig Sauer, giving it the advantage over a S&W. It's modular, giving it the advantage over both.
If it doesn't fit your hand, you swap out a frame. Simple as that.
For reference, I own/have owned all three
