Sighting in a turret mount

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The rear mount has left and right windage screws.
Scope is a Kahles 4x with no windage adjustments.
Rifle is a byf 44, my bother's, Panzercanuck
Sighted in at Farnham hunting and fishing club.
Met two others Canadiangunnutz there.

Also tried out a bnz 42 the brother recently received from P&S Militaria, Thanks J.P,
that one cleaned up very nicely indeed. Amazing how much shellac the Russians put on the stock. Acetone cleaned it up without affecting original finish. No pictures of that one yet.

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On a side note... Is that factory winchester ammo you are using to sight it in? That stuff is anemic at best compared to WW2 spec. When I shot with it, I had to have the sights set to 400 yards to hit the bull at 100.

I hope you are sighting it in high, really high. lol! I use Bell or Ingman, the European stuff is good.
 
VERY anemic for most things, but fine for the purpose at hand. I do prefer the S&B 196gr load, or reloads, but I had 2 boxes of the super x to use up for brass anyway.

BTW
Aligning the scope and mounts with the iron sights(set at 100meters) at 50 yds, caused me to be 10-12 inches high with the Win superX load at that distance.
 
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Geez. If those mounts were any higher you could see the moon. You may want to buy or make a cheek rest.
It wasn't unusual to have the adjustments on the mounts. Scope technology was fairly new and somewhat delicate in the 1940's. The 1903A4 Springfield used a Redfield bridge base. The rear ring can be adjusted for windage on it too. Not very sophisticated though. Loosen one screw and tighten the other. The scope doesn't sit anywhere near as high as that one does though.
 
Actually neither of us had a problem with the height.
You can still see and use the iron sights with the turret mount, believe it not. An important consideration in most battlefield rifles.
 
diopter said:
You can still see and use the iron sights with the turret mount, believe it not. An important consideration in most battlefield rifles.
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A nice design feature of being able to look through the holes milled in the front and back turret mounts to use the iron sights with the scope still mounted. And just the way the scope has to be rotated through 90 degrees to mount and dismount it.
Just a nice setup compared to anything else. German Engineering.
 
That's a classy looking rifle! Where did you get your scope, rings, and mounts, and who installed them? I have two Russian capture K98's, and have been thinking of going with a no-gunsmith scout mount, but looking at your setup has me thinking of going the other route of drilling and tapping. I'm still on the fence about leaving them as they are, or taking the big plunge and trying one of them with a sniper repro setup. Tell us more about your setup please....
 
Robert Spielauer for the scope and turrets mounts with rings. Rings are one piece, so he kindly partially dis-assembled the scope to get the rings onto the tube before sending it to my brother.

Contact him by:
http://www.k98.at/catalog/index.php...ge=en&osCsid=4c5f370fa741915d61a8e6775b9d4c66

Mounts were mounted onto the rifle by Klaus Hiptmayer in Eastman Quebec

What receivers do you have? Not all manufacturers had turret mounts on their rifles. Some used only side mounts and it also depends on which scopes were available.
 
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Hi guys ,

What Diopter means is that certain WW2 German manufacturers of rifles & the year of manufacture go with certain mounts by certain services.

This means you really have to know what you are doing before you drill one hole on your receiver. Please do some research before you do anything or just ask me and I will try to steer you the right way.

Word of caution: doing this costs money $$$$..

By the way, I own many sniper rifles including the Steyr SSG P-2 and Moisin Nagant sniper just to name a few.

This rifle is engineered perfectly. There is no need for a cheek rest at all. If I had to complain, I want more magnifacation on my scope ,but history & availability forced me to put that Kahles H4/60 scope on it , it's very clear for an old scope . I am not complaining at all.
Thanks for reading this.


Have a nice day

Panzercanuck
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Calum said:
What is the red leather thingy on the fore stock? :confused:
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Rear sight protector

Great looking project rifle Diopter. I did a repro High turret with an original Zielvier but went with an Iron Elite turret mount where the rings open up for the ease of mounting. I really didn't want to pooch a valuable scope in the process of trying to mount it in solid rings.

Have you tried zeroing the scope for the premarked distances on the elevation turret? I have done it several times but found that at different distances the zero would wander after dialing back and forth between ranges. I have since found out that this was due to the friction type gear assembly in the turret. Apparently, german snipers would zero at 300m and use holdover/holdunder at the appropriate ranges.
 
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Hello Steve,

Where did you get that info from, concerning the pre marked rangeing.I have yet to read that anywhere in my German Sniper books even in German.I have the following books:

1.Peter Seniches book on German Snipeing
2.Backbone of the wheremacht Vol 2 R.Law
3.Robert Speilauers Book on German scopes

If you can direct me where this info comes from I would like to read it myself.As is now ,it's just fine.

To use a 4x scope at more than 400m sound a little far fetched for me.Of course there is alot of legends out there.Hmmm

Panzercanuck

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Hey Panzer,
The pre marked ranging is just a theory that seems to be favoured nowdays due to the evidence at hand (like the distance/landmark recognition in the German Sniper training film out there, I think Badger has it hosted at milsurps.com). I don't think I have ever seen it in a book per se but I will have to check my library. Here is a recent discussion on it:

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=54252

Yeah, I know, 4x doesn't seem like a lot but remember it is at a man sized target so hits out to 500m were apparently common. Here is a neat interview with three German snipers (including top snipers Hetzenauer and Allerberger):

http://www.geocities.com/faunto2000/german_sniperinterview.htm
 
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