Silvertip ammo...........

Brutus

Brutus

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Okay after talking with Silverback on the phone.....hey thats funny
Silverback/Silvertip!!! Anyways, on the 22 November here in the Northern part of Alberta, I took a nice whitetail buck at my estimate of roughly 260 yards. Using a 30-30 Winchester pre-64 Carbine from unsupported offhand, using 150 grain Silvertip ( old style) ammo. A clean kill by the way just gave him a finisher as force of my habit.This was not done on a whim, Silverback/Silvertip( tee hee) and I regularly shoot every weekend, usually on the Sunday afternoon, rifle or pistol or both. I estimate the bullet drop of around 15 inches, that bullet weight struck two inches high at 100 yard paper target.Firesite and Williams FP rear peep. No wind and no way to shoot from any other position without losing sight of the deer. Deer dead right there.
Deer was 3/4s facing me, I held on his white throat patch for aiming point and let him have it before he got my wind. Bullet hit two inches right of centre chest and recovered expended first bullet just under the hide opposite side. Recovered bullet weight of 77 grains, just the base and peeled back copper jacket portion. Bullet took out one and one half lungs, smashed at least one rib. Unlike Montana mule deer hunter, I used RN bullet, shorter barrel, Winy as opposed to Marlin, and the only optical aid was my binoculars.
I now humbly duck the in-coming, my helmet is on and I know I deserve it........:D
 
Hey Brutus you forgot to add that you were shooting at the 200 yd gong on the range for quite a few months with the 30-30 before hunting season, and I can honestly say that Brutus can hit the 200 yd gong very consistantly from the standing position, seen him do it many times.
 
Silverback said:
Hey Brutus you forgot to add that you were shooting at the 200 yd gong on the range for quite a few months with the 30-30 before hunting season, and I can honestly say that Brutus can hit the 200 yd gong very consistantly from the standing position, seen him do it many times.
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Thats what I've been doing. We use baloons though. I don't think my shots dropped quite that much, maybe 10-12 inches. I took my first deer at approximately 75 yards, hit exactly where I aimed. I'm probably only 50% on the 200yard shots standing with iron sites. Kneeling, I'm about 80%. IMO, getting good with the old 30-30 is the best thing I could have done. My buds shoot .308, 7mm, 30.06 all with scopes, and within 200 yards, I can almost always outshoot them (I hope they read this!).
I have a few different calibers, but the Win 94 30-30 is by far my favorite.

Great shot Brutus!!
I hope one day to shoot that well.
 
My buds shoot .308, 7mm, 30.06 all with scopes, and within 200 yards, I can almost always outshoot them (I hope they read this!).
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It sounds like you are telling us that your buds need a lot of shooting practise.:D
 
Pistolero..........

I am pretty confident with most of my rifles......however when it comes to short arms, Silverback kicks my butt cause he has been shooting handgun for like 100 years or so!!! All kidding aside he is a very proficient handgunner with years of practical experience like metallic silouette and bullseye match.
 
Advice..........

I thank you guys for your comments, everyone wishes to harvest cleanly.......

Anglinfool, the only diference between you and me is practice time at the rifle range. You obviously take this sport seriously and before you know it you will be doing things at the range that most people only dream of. I find that some people are generally are not willing to challenge themselves, this I believe is generally true to most people in our "high tech society." When a person decides to do this( frequent and challenging practice) at first, in a harmless manner punching paper targets at the range, they sooner or latter become better and better at what they are doing. Along with this comes CONFIDENCE in ones abilities, within reason of course, and on a progressive scale of attainable goals.
For example with the proper application of the basic shooing skills as a base for all future activity one becomes "enlightened and fully aware" to wear you can "feel" a good position and proper line up on the target, breath control as natural as can be, and that target picture seems to "find itself."
When you are there and letting that hammer down, you can "feel" good about the shot....and as you approach your target, everything has come a full circle. Some people forget that EVERY time you pull that trigger or release that arrow, that you ARE learning from this shooting event, and you must remember this "lesson" to become a better and better shooter.....
each time you come to this moment.

Anyways I have typed too much, I just love shooting, I hope you guys do too.....
 
I wish more guys do what you do Brutus; PRACTICE. IMO, I don't care if you are shooting at 75 yards or 275 yards, you need to practice and know your rifle.

Every year I hear about guys 'loosing' deer or 'missing' a nice buck. If they took the time to learn their rifle and their limitations (yes, not everyone is comfortable shooting past 200 yards - me included) far less animals would suffer. I apologize because it may just be the guys I hear talking about their season and the 'chances' they had and I know they don't practice.

Congrats on your deer Brutus. It was well deserved. Do you have any pictures of it to share with us?

Cheers,

James
 
260 yard shot with an open sighted 30-30 is foolish IMO

but you killed it and it didnt suffer. alot of guys do worse with scope sighted 300 Weatherbys at 75 yards
 
Nice to hear of an open sighted harvest, wish I could say the same this year but all kills were with scoped rifle. So long as your comfortable shooting that distance, wow! Have at it, out of my range, but clean kills matter most and you got it.
 
My grandfather could shoot like that when he was still alive. I certainly can't. At 80, he would have smacked you a good one upside the head for calling him foolish, too.;)
 
Hey fellas, if someone will PM me with thier email address and willing to post it for me.....cause i am ssssooooo puter illiterate.I will send my deer pics to email address. If they are to be so kind to post them to this thread,
then everyone can see the photos of this bad boy.......

Cheers.............
 
Here ya go Brutus. Beauty buck! Nice rifle too!

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nice

I wish I could get the smilies to work

you did'nt say where you got that one but if I had to guess I would say somewhere north of GP, I've seen a lot of big ones out that way earlier. Where I was actually hunting this year they all had smaller racks then last year, but still respectable. But no where near as nice as that one.
 
Great deer. I'm a big fan of the 94, altough I don't own one currently. Just a question on the peep sight though, I have one on my Win M-43 25-20, and find that the gold bead front sight pretty much blocks out gophers at anything past 50 yards. I some how manage to hit them most times (astounding myself in the process) How much of a deer (or even a 10" gong does the front sight block out at that range?
 
i shot a bear at 185 yards (rangefinder) with my buds M-305 open sighted useing 180 gr silvertips worked like a charm hit the bear in the spine down it whent one shot.
talk to ya all later
Riley
 
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