Silvertips

Have only taken one annimal with them and it was many years back but it was a one shot from less than 20 yards on a mulie buck and it only went about 25 ft before falling over. It was actually my first annimal ever, Parker Hale safari in a .308 win. Actually was the only annimal I have taken with that gun, was given to me by my grandfather and it still looks like it just came out of the box after 40 yrs or so. I am too afraid to take it out to the bush and wreck the finish on it now. I know some are laughing right now but hey it's my gun and my choice right? I would see no problem with that round on a whitey as long as you do your part and make a good shot with it

Bryan
 
Here is the carnage the resulted from a Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertip on a small whitetail doe. I'll admit I was overgunned for this shot, but the bullet pretty much exploded. Notice you only see one leg in the picture, I didn't touch the deer for the shot. Oh and this was the entrance wound, there didn't seem to be any sort of exit wound. Just like I hit her with a gernade or something.

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I reload now so I choose my bullets. In the deer I have seen shot at close range with any sort of non-bonded ballistic tip, and I've seen a couple now, the result is a big mess. I'd go with something like a Nosler partition, or a bonded BT. Unless it's in a low velocity cartridge.
 
Looks like you struck the upper legbone hey cam1936?

If that's the case here, I myself see no reason to switch to a premium bullet more suited to elk than deer, purely for whitetail deer.
Ballistic tips (and not the old Silvertip) have a rep' of coming apart way too easily. It's more like a varmint bullet than one suited to deer hunting.
There are lots of other better choices without going to something like a nosler partition. (black bear/moose bullet)

my two bits
 
cam1936 said:
Here is the carnage the resulted from a Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertip on a small whitetail doe. I'll admit I was overgunned for this shot, but the bullet pretty much exploded. Notice you only see one leg in the picture, I didn't touch the deer for the shot. Oh and this was the entrance wound, there didn't seem to be any sort of exit wound. Just like I hit her with a gernade or something.

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I reload now so I choose my bullets. In the deer I have seen shot at close range with any sort of non-bonded ballistic tip, and I've seen a couple now, the result is a big mess. I'd go with something like a Nosler partition, or a bonded BT. Unless it's in a low velocity cartridge.
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Ballistic Silvertips are a different bullet then the normal silvertips he is talking about.

Anywho, I flattened a good sized buck with a Silvertip from my 3030, cant see why it wouldn't do the same from a .308
 
Brutus said:
Looks like you struck the upper legbone hey cam1936?

If that's the case here, I myself see no reason to switch to a premium bullet more suited to elk than deer, purely for whitetail deer.
Ballistic tips (and not the old Silvertip) have a rep' of coming apart way too easily. It's more like a varmint bullet than one suited to deer hunting.
There are lots of other better choices without going to something like a nosler partition. (black bear/moose bullet)

my two bits
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I'd have to agree, a good old cup and core bullet will do fine on deer. No need to go to a partition or the like, not that it hurts.

As for the shot it was placed slightly too far forward, it still fragmented faaaaar to easy. I've seen BTs do similair things without striking a bone as well.
 
cam1936 said:
I'd have to agree, a good old cup and core bullet will do fine on deer. No need to go to a partition or the like, not that it hurts.

As for the shot it was placed slightly too far forward, it still fragmented faaaaar to easy. I've seen BTs do similair things without striking a bone as well.
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Cam, you post made me very curious, so I went to Cabela's Product Reviews and read more than a few answers from customers.
Many, (lots) of users were 'happy' with this product. But there was enough instances of early blowup, just like yours, to make me wonder if all those 'happy' users lost a fair bit venison steaks even though they tagged out. Also, I think myself the cleaner kills happened more often at beyond 100 yards, as oppossed to the low grades given by the closer range users.
Killing a deer is killing a deer, but some things are better than others. I prefer not to loose what should be awesome venison roasts/steaks to exploded bone fragments if I can help it.
It was educational to say the least.

Cheers
 
Brutus said:
Cam, you post made me very curious, so I went to Cabela's Product Reviews and read more than a few answers from customers.
Many, (lots) of users were 'happy' with this product. But there was enough instances of early blowup, just like yours, to make me wonder if all those 'happy' users lost a fair bit venison steaks even though they tagged out. Also, I think myself the cleaner kills happened more often at beyond 100 yards, as oppossed to the low grades given by the closer range users.
Killing a deer is killing a deer, but some things are better than others. I prefer not to loose what should be awesome venison roasts/steaks to exploded bone fragments if I can help it.
It was educational to say the least.

Cheers
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This year a friend used my rifle to shoot a Mule buck at 30 yards. I ran out of accubonds so I had 140 grain Nosler BTs in a .280 Rem loaded moderatly with 57 grains of H4831. Velocity from the muzzle was probably on the order of 2750 fps. Not exactly fast. He placed the shot well (his first deer too) hitting the heart and not striking a rib. The exit wound was grapefruit sized, and despite the well placed heart shot a fragment from the bullet went into the guts and leaked gut juice on the far side of the deer. Pretty much half of a front quater was lost. That being my second experience with "exploding" ballistic tips, I swore to never use one again.
 
I still have component Silvertips, although my supply is dwindling. They've worked well on anything I've shot with them, and as an added bonus they are very accurate as well.
 
joe-nwt said:
I still have component Silvertips, although my supply is dwindling. They've worked well on anything I've shot with them, and as an added bonus they are very accurate as well.
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The first Silvertips I had the opportunity to use were a couple of boxes of Winchester factory 180's I got with a model 70 in 300WM. They worked well, no complaints. I've recently acquired a few boxes of some of Winchesters latest 200gr production run of 348WCF Solvertips. In addition, I was lucky enough to pick up a couple of components, two old original boxes of 200gr Silvertip bullets for the 348WCF.

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;)Wish I could find more, especially some 250gr:).
 
I have about 250 of the 30 cal 150 grain Silvertips that I load for my 300 Savage, and an additional 120 or so of the 30 cal 180 Silvertip. These are decent cup & core bullets. Usually quite accurate, and deadly on lighter game. Eagleye.
 
Thanks for the replies, and here's another one. Can anyone tell me from thier experience, if 180 silvertips and 180 powerpoints share the same POI? Should'nt be too far off, right? I tried them on the winchester balistics caculator and the are pretty well identical. Any real life stories you might like to share?
 
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