Single loading (Magazine-less) a semi-auto rifle...

What type of gun would help but I really don't think doing it very sparingly will do any harm.

Some semi-auto's are designed specifically to allow this, Beretta 92 comes to mind.
 
This is an issue for some controlled feed bolt action rifles.
I can think of no semi auto rifles that will be damaged by single feeding.

What are you shooting?
 
To clarify I was meaning semi-auto rifles specifically. I'm not sure if you are basing the opinion on semi auto handguns , just saying because of the Beretta 92 reference.
 
It is a certain Swiss firearm, even gauging from a couple trains of thought it isn't such a big deal at least in a single instance, more so if done repetitively(not planning on it)?
 
This will be fine in most (any?) push feed action. The extractor will be forced over the rim when the bolt closes, same as during a normal feed.

As an earlier post says, for a controlled feed action this is bad, because the extractor captures the cartridge as its coming off the magazine, the extractor isn't designed to be forced over the rim.
 
not a good thing to do as the mag slows the bolt speed down. with out the mag in place the round can {and} will go off out of battery. this is a fact.
 
The above is only true with very, very soft primers. Lots of people single feed ARs heavy bullets.

If the only thing keeping a rifle from slam firing was a little bit of magazine friction they would be poorly designed and unsafe.
 
read your hand books.single loading is to be done with mag in place 'm14. m1 .fnal. all say it'. just by safe . and if you want go ahead. if it happens you would think a hand grnade went of in your face.
 
black john said:
read your hand books.single loading is to be done with mag in place 'm14. m1 .fnal. all say it'. just by safe . and if you want go ahead. if it happens you would think a hand grnade went of in your face.
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If I am single feeding any of the above magazine fed rifles how would the magazine reduce bolt velocity "to a safe level" as it makes zero contact with any moving parts.
 
Gunnerlove said:
If I am single feeding any of the above magazine fed rifles how would the magazine reduce bolt velocity "to a safe level" as it makes zero contact with any moving parts.
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Not the magazine itself, but stripping the round off the magazine is supposed to slow the bolt down enough to reduce the floating firing pin's momentum to a safe level. I'm no gun-gineer but I've always heard that dropping a bolt with a free-floating firing pin onto a pre-chambered live round is a considerable safety no-no.
 
Soooo, As I said it was a lapse in judgement and it isn't a regular occurrence. I defiantly see the possible negatives from doing it, I was just concerned about my extractor being damaged. Going off what has been said it is probably fine (rifle did not blow up:) and the extractor looks ok. Appreciate the different thoughts on this topic.
 
The friction of that last single round in a mag is enough to reduce the velocity of a bolt and carrier or slide from dangerous levels?
I am calling BS till Pat Rogers, Larry Vickers, Kevin B or C77 tell me it is dangerous and I am a fool to do it.
Yup I call BS, kind of like putting CLP on an AR firing pin will cause slam fires, or light strikes depending on the day of week.
 
If you are loading singles in a semi (no mag) and your bolt has no firing spring

it is recomended you do not hit the bolt release and let the bolt slam forward all the way

if you have a semi ie a m1 garand/ m1a/ norinco m305 pull the bolt back with your hand and close the bolt 7/8 or 3/4 of the way and then let the bolt close the last little bit by spring pressure
if it does not close all the way release a bit earlier

my m305 will close on a round just letting it go about a inch or less from the bolt face

Letting it go from the bolt lock position invites a slam fire ( also using soft primers) VERY BAD !!!!!
 
Gunnerlove said:
The friction of that last single round in a mag is enough to reduce the velocity of a bolt and carrier or slide from dangerous levels?
I am calling BS till Pat Rogers, Larry Vickers, Kevin B or C77 tell me it is dangerous and I am a fool to do it.
Yup I call BS, kind of like putting CLP on an AR firing pin will cause slam fires, or light strikes depending on the day of week.
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Okay.
 
Guys at Camp Perry single load their ARs all week long on the longer stages. Nothing bad ever happens. I would have to disagree with the mag slowing anything down to a safe speed as well. Pretty sure that the forward momentum during firing is way faster than if you let the bolt go forward with the bolt release.
 
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