Single Stroke Air Rifle/Pistol Suggestions?

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I’m looking for a good BB rifle for 5m indoor practice, and a .177 air rifle for use in the backyard at 10m.

Basically, quality and accuracy at a reasonable price is what I’m looking for. I just want something to practice with for the times when the weather sucks, or I can’t make it to the range with my rimfires and centerfires.

I’m leaning towards a:

Daisy Avanti Model 753 Elite in .177

Daisy Avanti Model 499 Champion BB gun


I like the idea of being able to use micrometer sights and the fact the barrels are fixed. Having to only stroke a cocking lever once is a big plus too.

I’ve read good things about the CZ Slavia 631 or 630. I like my CZ 452’s and can assume that their air rifles are built with the same quality. The only problem seems to be finding one brand new in the box.

I’ve also heard that the Diana Model 24 & 34 are nice rifles too.



I’ve been checking out a couple of .177 single stroke air pistols as well.

They are:

Daisy Model 747 Triumph

Baikal IZH 46M Match Air Pistol


I wonder what the opinions are on these from the people that have shot them?
 
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IMO the barrel, and trigger are everything, combining that with good ammo gives you the results. I have a couple of 1492 Marksman Biathalon trainers that are cheap but extreamly accurate(10 meters), I'm sure the Daisys would be fine. Look at the details, barrel specs , trigger pull, target sights....
 
Do you mean the Marksman Model 1790 Biathlon Trainer?:confused:

I actually like the look of it, but I would prefer to get a rifle with a fixed barrel.

Frankly, I don't really see that many air guns that I really like.

It seems that most inexpensive air guns are made with lots of plastic and aluminum these days.

Too bad no one seems to be building them with quality steel for an affordable price anymore.

The Weihrauch HW 77 rifle looks nice, but I don't know if the higher price justifies purchasing it.

The Weihrauch HW 75 pistol is $10 less than the IZH 46M, but $110 more that the Ruger MkIII Target in .22LR I'm considering.
 
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MapleSugar said:
most inexpensive air guns are made with lots of plastic and aluminum these days.

Too bad no one seems to be building them with quality steel for an affordable price anymore.
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On the pistol side I've had the Izzy, HW40, and HW75, all SSP's. The Izzy is a entry level target pistol meant to be shot 1-handed. They are large and heavy and you will need to modify the grips. They are great shooters and lots of people love theirs but I'm not a fan of the front heavy balance. Never shot the Daisy 7x7's... Not thrilled that their frames appear to be made of pot metal.

For rifles I've only shot the Daisy 853 on one occasion... same powerplant as the 753. The trigger didn't impress me but there is a trigger mod you can do to make it better. Again, as with the 7x7's, I was not impressed with the build quality for the amount of $$$ that they sell for.
 
Thanks for the feedback!:)

I may just end up buying the Ruger MkIII Target, and sticking with that and my other rimfires for cheap target practice.

I need to move back to somewhere there is a decent range anyways.

I suppose I could always just buy a Daisy Red Ryder for indoor shooting and save a bunch of dough.

BTW, what are your thoughts on the HW 75?
 
Webley Alecto is a multi pump pneumatic pistol but it only takes 2-3 pumps to get a.22 up close to 500fps
Big pistol with target style adjustable grip and trigger.
 
for a light rifle with a fixed barrel you could go with the Baikal MP-60 or 61. They are also sold as IZH-60 or 61. The 61 has a 5 shot clip which makes it fun. Trigger is great, stock is adjustable. If you want more power, there is the HW line, the 97 and the 77 have fixed barrels but they cost a lot more. Available both PAL or non-PAL. Pistol wise, the Baikal IZH46M is ugly, and you need to sand down the grip, but it shoots like a dream.
Denis
 
I haven't had the chance to put a lot of pellets through my HW75 yet, but so far I like it. I was looking for a casual target / plinking pistol that was more compact and comfortable to shoot 2-handed than the match pistols. The 75 is a little larger and heavier than the HW40 (steadier to shoot offhand) and also easier to charge. The nicest overlever SSP I've shot was a FAS-604 - amazing quality, but also comes with a hefty price tag new. The HW75 is somewhere in the middle. HW has a great track record so I expect it to last. Their spring rifles are about all I shoot these days, as well as a pair of Feinwerkbau Sports.
 
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for a light rifle with a fixed barrel you could go with the Baikal MP-60 or 61. They are also sold as IZH-60 or 61. The 61 has a 5 shot clip which makes it fun. Trigger is great, stock is adjustable. If you want more power, there is the HW line, the 97 and the 77 have fixed barrels but they cost a lot more. Available both PAL or non-PAL. Pistol wise, the Baikal IZH46M is ugly, and you need to sand down the grip, but it shoots like a dream.
Denis
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Thanks!

The IZH 60/61 sure is an ugly rifle, eh?:D

It isn't that much, so I might consider it. Those Russians still seem to make most things out of metal.

I'm left-handed, so the Baikal IZH46M would suit me better than anything that side cocks.

The Weihrauch HW 75 sure looks good though. Too bad it isn't only $200.:(
 
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I haven't had the chance to put a lot of pellets through my HW75 yet, but so far I like it. I was looking for a casual target / plinking pistol that was more compact and comfortable to shoot 2-handed than the match pistols. The 75 is a little larger and heavier than the HW40 (steadier to shoot offhand) and also easier to charge. The nicest overlever SSP I've shot was a FAS-604 - amazing quality, but also comes with a hefty price tag new. The HW75 is somewhere in the middle. HW has a great track record so I expect it to last. Their spring rifles are about all I shoot these days, as well as a pair of Feinwerkbau Sports.
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The HW 75 seems to be what I'm looking for. I shot two-handed in a .22LR bullseye league and really like practicing with pistols that are realistic to a regular combat pistol.

The FAS AP604 sure reminds me of a S&W Model 41 (and almost costs as much.) It looks like it is high quality, I'll bet it is a dream to shoot.

I can see that branching off into airguns now could become very expensive for me in a hurry.:rolleyes:
 
garmic said:
You should just try to order from the CZ site I've heard of people who have ordered parts and got them.
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garmic said:
email these guys for CZ they are both canadian distributers.
londonarms@295.ca
lmcbride@edmonton.ipdl.ca
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I don't think I can order firearms from them directly, and I've already spoken with London Arms and been informed that they no longer import the CZ's.

Apparently, the Czech's raised the prices too much and the line was dropped.

I'll try the link in Edmonton though.

Thanks!:)
 
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