Single VS double-triggers

Westward1 said:
I was thinking the same thing about the extractor vs ejector thing. If you cannot trap or catch the hulls you just need a little practice.
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OTOH ..... If you cannot pull them out or tip the gun over and let them fall into your hand, you just need a little practice. :)
 
Londonshooter said:
I never considered the cleavage aspect. You mean like titty meat? Not sure whether to think of this like Patrice O'Neil, rest his soul, or Gary Coleman.
"Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Raymund?"
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Just something about looking down on a SxS ( by the way the cleavage is the place between the two round " things ")
 
Double triggers all the way, the Spaniards could put double triggers in a gun in their sleep! Really can't say I have ever had mechanical issues with a DT gun that couldn't be fixed. However had a few older single trigger guns that never worked right even after being in the shop.
 
Single triggers on the o/u, double on the sxs and no real problem with either. Just before the upland season the sxs gets out for a couple of rounds of clays so I can get readjusted to double triggers and an auto safety.
 
Single triggers have given their fair share of trouble for various makers over the years but for the most part they're fairly trouble free these days. They do make more sense than doubles on a high volume target gun and the removable versions are very practical in that they can be removed, sprayed down with your favorite chemical cleaner, blown dry with shop air, relubed and reinstalled in a few minutes. Even the non removable single trigger guns I've owned have given very little trouble with thousands of rounds per year.
 
My dad Marocchi has a single trigger (first pull bottom second pull top barrel) just point and shoot. I have a o/u Franchi double trigger and a SxS double trigger (think Portugese model) the only single trigger shotgun I use is on a pump gun (pun intended)
 
SuperCub said:
OTOH ..... If you cannot pull them out or tip the gun over and let them fall into your hand, you just need a little practice. :)
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I can't imagine tipping a gun over to unload it, when there is no reason to do so, just as it isn't always easy to grab the rims of shotshells with heavy gloves, while hunting in cold temperatures.
 
"Single selective triggers are a triumph of technology over common sense." Don't know who first said it, but it's the truest thing you'll ever see about double barrel shotguns.
 
Cute saying, but nonsense.
Single triggers are technically well developed now.
There's nothing technically, intellectually or morally superior about double triggers. They are just different.
90% of quality over/under shotguns now have single triggers.
I have both single and double triggers on side by side and over/under guns.
The tough part is changing between the two.
Certainly, double triggers look right on a straight grip hunting gun, because we're used to that configuration.
The Fabarm Autumn with beavertail forend, big pistol grip and single trigger is aimed at an American market segment.
The US is a huge market driving demand for new guns.
Isn't it great that manufacturers offer a choice for most tastes these days.
 
Big Bad said:
"Single selective triggers are a triumph of technology over common sense." Don't know who first said it, but it's the truest thing you'll ever see about double barrel shotguns.
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Just another one of the thousand pretentious cliches heard from people trying too hard to sound seasoned.
 
Westward1 said:
Just another one of the thousand pretentious cliches heard from people trying too hard to sound seasoned.
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Many people that make statements like that forget about other details, like user ability , and in most of my shotguns, hammer sidelock versus box lock.
For the most part it is far easier and cheaper to make a box lock with a single trigger than a side lock with two triggers. That does not in any way imply that a box lock is inferior, just different.:cool:
Cat
 
saskbooknut said:
Cute saying, but nonsense.
Single triggers are technically well developed now.
There's nothing technically, intellectually or morally superior about double triggers. They are just different.
90% of quality over/under shotguns now have single triggers.
I have both single and double triggers on side by side and over/under guns.
The tough part is changing between the two.
Certainly, double triggers look right on a straight grip hunting gun, because we're used to that configuration.
The Fabarm Autumn with beavertail forend, big pistol grip and single trigger is aimed at an American market segment.
The US is a huge market driving demand for new guns.
Isn't it great that manufacturers offer a choice for most tastes these days.
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Westward1 said:
Just another one of the thousand pretentious cliches heard from people trying too hard to sound seasoned.
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You pretentious boys clearly have never hunted wary ruffed grouse, or any small game in heavy cover, or if you have not very much and you aren't any good at it.
 
Big Bad said:
"Single selective triggers are a triumph of technology over common sense." Don't know who first said it, but it's the truest thing you'll ever see about double barrel shotguns.
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I get what the origional author of this is trying to say but I dissagree wholeheartedly. Single triggers are by far easier to use for the occasional shooter and therefore make perfect common sense.
 
Big Bad said:
"Single selective triggers are a triumph of technology over common sense." Don't know who first said it, but it's the truest thing you'll ever see about double barrel shotguns.
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If someone likes single-selective trigger, all the power to them.

In my reality, while out in the wood hunting, with gloves on
- Fiddling with a selector as I'm raising the gun to shoot is just something I'd rather not deal with.

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Heck, I'll usually wear something like this on my trigger-hand, as to maintain some sort of dexterity... with something warmer on my left hand.

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Falconflyer said:
Target guns are not built with double triggers these days so when you shoot as many targets as I do during the year you'd best get comfortable with a single trigger. These guns also typically have ejectors instead of extractors and I'll say that I prefer the ejectors on a target gun as the shells are ejected into your hand when the gun is opened so you don't have to pluck them out one by one. It shortens the time between pairs and keeps the rythim of the reload more consistent. I find that reloading quickly between pairs in sporting clays helps to keep my focus safe from my ADD and minimizes the distractions. That's probably why I was never a top trap shooter, too much time in between shots to start thinking about other things.
I own some double trigger hunting guns and I don't have any problems switching back and forth between them and a single trigger gun. I do believe that double trigger guns should always be on an English stock and when used in combination with a pistol graip are an abomination. Extractors are my preference on any hunting gun but I only find ejectors awkward on side by side guns as the shells are more difficult to catch. I have a side by side 28 guage with ejectors and it's a curse as it fires the hulls about ten feet behind if I miss covering them with my hand when I open the gun.
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My Perazzi TM had the ejector rod removed by the previous owner. I figured no big deal if I have to extract the spent round but I have to say in today's world of trap shooting with auto-stack machines and voice releases it can be a challenge keeping up when you find yourself on a fast squad. Some days I felt like I was scrambling to unload, put the spent hull in my hull pouch then grab a fresh round and reload and still have time to get reset and watch a few targets. Most times I have time to watch one and sometimes not even that if I happen to fumble around a bit. I will be having the ejector rod installed back in the gun for this coming season. I like being able to keep my head up and watch what's going on out front while ejecting a hull into my hand or maybe from now on to the ground. The sweepers they have at clubs nowadays makes cleaning hulls between squads a breeze. As for double vs single triggers I prefer single selective. It is what I am used to and the few times I have shot guns with double triggers I found them unwieldly to get used to. My father has a pair of 60's Laurona's, a SxS and O/U and both have double triggers. I find them hard to get used to knowing which fires which barrel.....
 
All this talk about double triggers, single triggers, selective/non selective makes me laugh.
here is a true story that shows that it is reaally a problem that never existed.
I once sold a gorgeous Fausti Dea to a person ( whom is now a good friend)
The Dea was POW stocked, box lock with non selective single trigger with screw in chokes.
it's in 28 and I had two, the other was a completely custom ordered Ugartechea.
The Ugguie was English stocked, side locks with articulating front trigger and fixed IC/MOD chokes, IC on the left side because I like to use the back trigger first.
I preferred the Ugartechea soo sold the Dea to my friend.

We were talking about his new gun and how well he shot it. He told me between the club shoots, his own released birds, Sharp tails and wild roosters he had killed 194 birds with it that season.
Upon glancing at his barrels after he made a pretty long shot with the second barrel, I realized that the chokes were set backwards because before I sold it I had been shooting skeet with it so the first barrel was the MOD barrel and the second barrel was actually more open, at IC!
He had shot 194 birds with the chokes reversed, shooting the tighter choke first!
We switched the chokes and although I have watched him kill many birds since that first day, the birds don't die any quicker with the IC choke first.:p
Cat
 
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