Site Responding to Earthroots

Republiman said:
I purposefully made the story ridiculous enough that only an idiot (i.e. Earthroots member) would believe it.
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Not much real-life conflict experience here, that's for sure. If/when you ever get into a REAL conflict, I hope somebody tells you the first rule of engagement.......

Never underestimate the enemy!!
 
Republiman said:
Any intelligent person who reads it knows the story's fake, but to an uneducated member of Earthroots they think it's true. I purposefully made the story ridiculous enough that only an idiot (i.e. Earthroots member) would believe it.
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An intellegent and ethical hunter has no need to resort to the same tactics used by PETA members.

Lay down with the pigs and I'll call you a swine everytime!
 
I did not bother going to the site because I knew instinctively it is gonna be stupid. Reading the responses of the people that did disappoints the hell out of me because it affirms what I suspected.

Excuse me for this Ol' Maddog Mod' but whoever intentionally goes out and does this, supposedly to help the cause of hunters is much more then an idiot,
they are Friggin' Cretins!! :mad:


Republiman if you're the guy doing this or you know who is, then do all of us a favor and delete that crap you or your "org" is spewing.
 
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"The State of Montana offers a free online certification for identifying bears, which is required of those who wish to hunt bears in Montana. This could probably be used as proof of prior hunters' education in other states and provinces, and the test is extremely easy"

So you're advising people on how to get around hunter training requirements, suggesting that hunters would be inclined to try to get around those requirements, and putting it out there for the environmentalist movement to read.

Smart.
 
BBB said:
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"The State of Montana offers a free online certification for identifying bears, which is required of those who wish to hunt bears in Montana. This could probably be used as proof of prior hunters' education in other states and provinces, and the test is extremely easy"

So you're advising people on how to get around hunter training requirements, suggesting that hunters would be inclined to try to get around those requirements, and putting it out there for the environmentalist movement to read.

Smart.
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I'm not advising them how to get around the requirement, but rather how to fulfill it to the extent that the law requires it without having to pay anything.
 
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Not nice.

Here's one example whe the guys not using the internet are better off.

Have you watched Ted Nugent and thought about pushing things farther?

I like hunting and the actions of antis do not define me.
Nor am I likely to take the guns in the street if I don;t like my government... coworkers.... girlfriend..... or your site.

I believe is the wrong setting for now. We do not recruit extremists for our community and therefore we don;t need this poster.
 
Fail

Republiman said:
The wolf hunting story is quite obviously fake, and only a stupid college hippy who was dumb as f**k would believe it... the idea is to piss them off. Most who read that story don't believe it but I imagine a few really stupid hippies do. Can someone explain how this is fuel for the antis if no reasonable person would believe any of it is true?
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You obviouly haven't been taking anything away from the way we, as gun owners and hunters are persecuted on a daily basis.

Intelligence has nothing to do with it.

It's all about spin, and that site of yours is going to be big, bright lite on the top of any torch a carried by an anti.

PERCEPTION = REALITY

It doesn't matter if it's true. It's doesn't matter if it's OBVIOUSLY FALSE.

They will take it and use it for their own purposes, and that, my friend, is something YOU are responsible for.

Your site is garbage. It is NOT pro-active, it is merely poorly thought out and inflamitory.
 
You would have been better off with a site containing info and factoids about how hunters help with conservation and preservation more than hippies and peta do.(or soething more positive)


I can totally understand your wanting to piss of the hippies, but this is the wrong way to do it.
 
Me, I'm a die hard Nuge fan, ya he banned Canadian bear hunts from his list because we cut the spring bear hunt. He and I have the same intellect, screw Canada if they wanna play like that, Ted is an ethic hunter who only makes a shot when he knows it's right. You really don't wanna get me started on this topic. I think Ted Nugent is a very good hunter, no better than me and no better than most of the guys here and he plays by the rules. He actually used to hunt deer where I'm from, saw his truck headin down the road most mornings but never knew who it belonged to till he banned Canada from his list of places to hunt, I don't blame him in the least. It's preety sad when we, as Canadian citizens have to put in for a moose tag every year (in which I have not recieved one since 1994) yet the natives and anyone that goe's through a guide can shoot adult moose. Hell, I'm about to give up on these Canadian laws myself, you really can't beat these dicks. Just when you think you've got it figured out they throw another law into effect making it harder, sometimes I wish I'd married a native woman just for the hunting.

Rant mode off.
 
There's only one thing the non-shooting public fears more than someone with a gun - that's a loonie toon with a gun (and frankly anyone in his/her right mind SHOULD fear loonies with guns).

This whole thread reminds me of one from last week where a few of us got a little abusive with each other. But, the important thing is for us not to fight about it amongst ourselves - the antis would love nothing better and we'd have done it for them.

Republiman, may I respectfully suggest that your heart was in the right place, but your tactics may be off the mark. Your site could do more good if it were a testament to all the good that hunters do (as gth suggested). Imagine the confusion if your site was so similar to the real thing except that it (accidentally) praises hunters. Stuff like links to pages that sound bad, so the granola goofs go to read the stories only to find them anything but critical of hunters. Don't get too carried away with the similarities, though - you don't want to get sued for copyright infringements.

SS
 
straightshooter said:
There's only one thing the non-shooting public fears more than someone with a gun - that's a loonie toon with a gun (and frankly anyone in his/her right mind SHOULD fear loonies with guns).

This whole thread reminds me of one from last week where a few of us got a little abusive with each other. But, the important thing is for us not to fight about it amongst ourselves - the antis would love nothing better and we'd have done it for them.

Republiman, may I respectfully suggest that your heart was in the right place, but your tactics may be off the mark. Your site could do more good if it were a testament to all the good that hunters do (as gth suggested). Imagine the confusion if your site was so similar to the real thing except that it (accidentally) praises hunters. Stuff like links to pages that sound bad, so the granola goofs go to read the stories only to find them anything but critical of hunters. Don't get too carried away with the similarities, though - you don't want to get sued for copyright infringements.

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Heh heh- you said it about the copyright infringements. Clayton Ruby apparently occupies a big position with that organization.

In any event, the wolf killing story was made up as a direct response to somebody that wrote an article in a socialist Toronto-based magazine article in order to piss him off and make him feel powerless to do anything by saying that this did not occur in Ontario or Canada, thus making me immune to any possible action by the authorities (tofu-munchers can't stand it when they have no recourse).

I'll ask these questions to people who viewed the site and disapproved of it: Do you have problems with any of the stuff other than the story about the killing of wolves (and possibly the forum, which I admit I am too lazy to bother cleaning up)? If I made the story so ridiculous that only a real idiot (read that as environmentalist) would believe it would you then find it hilarious rather than be pissed off at it? Did you enjoy the comparison of Earthroots' ideology to that of a bloodthirsty communist dictator?

Btw in a similar action I registered www.wolvesontario.ca (Earthroots has www.wolvesontario.org) and you will see that it redirects to a website that I believe would piss off the people at Earthroots.
 
republiman : having not visted your website i will add some suggestions based on the responses in here ditch the wolves story PERIOD and any other article that would or could posibly paint Actual hunters in an un-ethical or cruel manner. Hunting is and should be a tradition that every canadian should be proud to have in thier heritage. and its websites and storys like that , that have lent support to laws being passed to limit this pastime, a perfect example being the cancelation of the ont spring bear hunt. everyone in my family going back 5+ generations have taken pride in the fact that we ARE Ethical Hunters. My Children who are still to young to be introduced to hunting yet, will be given the same knowladge and respect for hunting that i was given when they are old enough. i have no problems wti h many sites much like this one that show the world that actual hunters are not the cruel and animal torturing people that the anti-s have spent years trying to paint us as. so in the future if you want to gain ground for hunters or even just support the heritage do so in a manner that is benficial to us and not some form of comic relief
 
Most of my friends are non hunters and would believe just about anything they read regarding it. I have not visited your site(s) and won't if they remain as they are. GTH and others have given you a good suggestion Republiman. Use your site to bring attention to the conservation efforts of hunters and educate the non-hunting community, the people on the fence with no oppinion one way or the other, about what we as hunters really do. Nothing will p!ss off the anti's more than a general public that is educated and won't believe their lies.
 
MadDog said:
Me, I'm a die hard Nuge fan, ya he banned Canadian bear hunts from his list because we cut the spring bear hunt. He and I have the same intellect, screw Canada if they wanna play like that, Ted is an ethic hunter who only makes a shot when he knows it's right. You really don't wanna get me started on this topic. I think Ted Nugent is a very good hunter, no better than me and no better than most of the guys here and he plays by the rules. He actually used to hunt deer where I'm from, saw his truck headin down the road most mornings but never knew who it belonged to till he banned Canada from his list of places to hunt, I don't blame him in the least. It's preety sad when we, as Canadian citizens have to put in for a moose tag every year (in which I have not recieved one since 1994) yet the natives and anyone that goe's through a guide can shoot adult moose. Hell, I'm about to give up on these Canadian laws myself, you really can't beat these dicks. Just when you think you've got it figured out they throw another law into effect making it harder, sometimes I wish I'd married a native woman just for the hunting.

Rant mode off.
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I agree with you. I watch him every week. Yes I do not consider to be sinful watching US sat TV since our Canadian market restricts our viewing options based on arbitrary decisions.
I like they way he sees things about hunting and even though I'm not rock fan, I find him interesting.
Many friends of mine hunt in Quebec. Ontarioland seems just too unatractive if you abide the laws, or not making money by the pile.
The way he provokes the viewers is original, and he tends to bring argments for his passion, to help non-hunters understand the bug... to give it a try. He doesn't want to gross people out, like Republiman's site.

Sorry Republiman, but you've started wrong with this. And you will probably continue to do it, because of the guys that are disagreeing with you in the hunting CGN community.
I am sorry that our arguments can't bring decency into your actions.
Really.
 
Let's dumb it down to the lowest common denominator....maybe it will sink in:

I am a borderline anti (The typical type who would visit the earthroots site out of curiousity) and I log in to your site.

Scenario A: The site is laid out in a proffesional manner which promotes conservationalism, and educates the public not only about sustainable harvest and it's benefits, but also the positive role that hunters play in the community. Being as I have visited this site thinking it is the real site, I read with an open mind, and it actually sinks in that hunters are good. +1 on our side.

Scenario two: I am a borderline anti that logs onto the site as it sits. Congratutions einstien....you have just succeeded in making me HATE hunters. As of now, in my world hunters are evil baby animal killing monsters, and I will support the anti movement in any way possible to ensure eradication of all hunters.

YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU?????
YOU HAVE TAKEN ALL THE ANTI PROPOGANDA AND PUT IT IN ONE NICE CONVENIENT PACKAGE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE!!!!

If I owned the .com site, I wouldn't do #### all to close down your site....Why would I? It's doing more good for the antis cause than their own site!

PLEEEEEEEEEEZE Get a clue!
 
I have given you the benifit of the doubt. I was a young hothead at one time and I can understand your contempt for the lefties. But you have recieved some good advice from some good people here.

YET YOUR SITE IS STILL UP!!!!!

Are you a lefty hippie troll?? You must be because as everyone has pointed out your site makes hunters look like ravenous idiots, yet you leave it there for all to see.
 
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