SK Long Range

To further support Grauhanens points earlier here is some data I collected this week with my Labradar. I chose 3 boxes from the same brick and tested each, different results for each box:

box 1
1124 fps avg MV
high 1142 low 1113
29.04 fps extreme spread
6.85 fps std dev
20 shot sample

box 2
1125 fps avg MV
high 1212 low 1107
104.72 extreme spread
14.56 Stf dev
50 shot sample

box 3
1124 fps avg MV
high 1166 low 1103
63.87 extreme spread
14.72 std dev
20 shot sample
 
Whereas Eley uses Anschutz rifles in their testing, and while not said in the SK Testing . . . probably Anschutz as well.

While my testing of various lots through different rifles, keeping track of one rifle's preference over another becomes a problem.
Having had better results with Eley Match in the 1060's range, Remington Eley Match was all I tested in the Remington. I settled on the 1062 fps after shooting five 10-shot groups at 100 yards over flags.
Some of the lots were scrubbed early in their tests.
The Coopers were tested with various lots of CenterX but results comparable to factory were not close. Both Cooper rifles show a preference to Eley Biathlon varieties, based on shots during the winter and those tests appear to be holding up during the summer.
The Anschutz has been tested with Remington Eley Match 1067 fps was the best of what was tested but still produces flyers that blossom groups to 1.2+ after producing a sub 1 inch 10-shot group.

As to shooting in really hot weather (around 38 degrees C.) one shooter reported the Eley lubricant was dripping off the lead and you could hear them screaming as they went down the bore.

Testing various ammo and lots therein is not everything . . . It is the only thing!
 
horseman2 said:
Whereas Eley uses Anschutz rifles in their testing, and while not said in the SK Testing . . . probably Anschutz as well.

While my testing of various lots through different rifles, keeping track of one rifle's preference over another becomes a problem.
Having had better results with Eley Match in the 1060's range, Remington Eley Match was all I tested in the Remington. I settled on the 1062 fps after shooting five 10-shot groups at 100 yards over flags.
Some of the lots were scrubbed early in their tests.
The Coopers were tested with various lots of CenterX but results comparable to factory were not close. Both Cooper rifles show a preference to Eley Biathlon varieties, based on shots during the winter and those tests appear to be holding up during the summer.
The Anschutz has been tested with Remington Eley Match 1067 fps was the best of what was tested but still produces flyers that blossom groups to 1.2+ after producing a sub 1 inch 10-shot group.

As to shooting in really hot weather (around 38 degrees C.) one shooter reported the Eley lubricant was dripping off the lead and you could hear them screaming as they went down the bore.

Testing various ammo and lots therein is not everything . . . It is the only thing!
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That may help explain my recent experience with the lube running off of RWS 'target rifle' ammo, although the temp was more like 33 degrees I think. To be shot in pleasant climates only?
 
horseman2 said:
As to shooting in really hot weather (around 38 degrees C.) one shooter reported the Eley lubricant was dripping off the lead and you could hear them screaming as they went down the bore.
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I've also had Eley Tenex ammo laying around for a long time and the lube broke down and became frosty and powdery. It just no longer shoots like it once did.

I've not tried it yet, but plan to do a test where I wipe the ammo clean with some sort of solvent and then rub some lanolin on it to see it that helps improve things. Maybe I can bring it back to life.

It would be nice if someone sold a 22LR ammo lube.
 
Lubricant on bullets is affected by both cold and very warm temperatures. In the cold, it becomes, in effect, too viscous and fails to appropriately lubricate the bore. When it's very warm, it can become too thin and will not stick to the bullet as it should. It comes off too easily, again with a negative impact on its ability to appropriately lubricate the bore.
 
There was a good (interesting) thread this past Spring on Sniper hide regarding 'additive lubes', including some relevant to temps. - http s://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/increasing-22-ammo-accuracy-on-a-budget-pnw-hillbilly-hack-anyone-up-for-a-challenge.7114152/
I liked the point that one would still have "... Caveat emptor....if you buy this stuff and dont enjoy the success then you'll have something that is a pretty decent cooking oil for Thai and Indonesian foods... "
 
grauhanen said:
Lubricant on bullets is affected by both cold and very warm temperatures. In the cold, it becomes, in effect, too viscous and fails to appropriately lubricate the bore. When it's very warm, it can become too thin and will not stick to the bullet as it should. It comes off too easily, again with a negative impact on its ability to appropriately lubricate the bore.
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Apparently Eley uses both Bees wax and paraffin mixed with tallow as a lube. The paraffin is less sticky for field use and bees wax while more sticky is better and preferred for clean environments like target shooting.

From what I've read, it sounds like they run about a 50:50 mix, but its not clear exactly what kind of tallow is used... Tallow from different parts of the body have very different characteristics. Also tallow from different animals have different characteristics. Is cow belly tallow better than lamb or goat, or is it best to get fat from somewhere else?

I'd like to get a recipie from a reliable source,
 
I gotta say, I never thought much about .22LR bullet lubes before this and now I have to ponder things like which part of the hog the lard was taken from and if maybe I should get some alpaca tallow to see of that improves cold air high altitude performance. If this isn't fun then what is?
 
GAIRLOCHIAN said:
Center X is an even better ammo given your rifle is able.
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Not every gun shoots the ammo the same. I went to a F class fun shoot and guy was saying that one gun likes SK auto, another SK pistol. None of them had center x. Even guys with 4k Anschutz.

This is where testing is your only option.
 
Have an Anschutz 1712 and a Vudoo 360. 4 different lots of CenterX and none of them shot very well out of either gun. Found a lot of SK long range match that shoots very good in both guns so bought 2 cases.
That being said if I put one of the CenterX and SKLRM on the table you can not tell them apart, same headstamp, bullet, lube, exactly the same.
 
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