Skorpion restricted by name?

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I have been trying to track down the classification of the Skorpion rifle/pistol.

From what I've read we can have the .32 cal version because it's classified as a rifle not a pistol. 32 cal pistols are prohib by caliber I think?

My question is, this is restricted based on barrel length, not restricted solely by name. I mean it's not restricted by name ala AR15 restricted by name.

An 18.5" barrel would look ridiculous I know but could it be reclassified as non restricted then?

Thanks all.
 
I don't recall the Skorpion being restricted by name, but the RCMP Fact Sheets have been "down for updating" for some time so it's hard to prove otherwise. 32acp is a prohibited handgun caliber, but seeing as the Skorp is considered a rifle by the RCMP this caliber is non-prohib.
 
Yeah, I've never been able to figure that one out, but WTF it's the worlds only 32acp rifle! and yes, if it had an 18.6 inch barrel it would have to be NR. As it is it's restricted due to barrel length.
 
The Skorpion pistol is prohibited for two reasons - by being named via Order in Council as prohibited, and by being a .32 ACP pistol. The Skorpion rifle is apparently not considered to be a variant of the pistol, so it isn't prohibited.

http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/regu/sor-98-462/latest/sor-98-462.html

Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 11

40. The firearm of the design commonly known as the Skorpion Auto Pistol, and any variant or modified version of it.
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As far as restricted status is concerned, the only designs named to be restricted by OIC are AR variants and the High Standard Model 10 bullpup shotgun (if you handed in the "bullpup" stock, but that's another story), so the only factor that is keeping these Skorpion rifles restricted is the barrel length. Theoretically, they should be able to be re-barreled to non-restricted.
 
G.Mitchell said:
I think one with a long NR barrel and suppressor shroud would look awesome and make a fun gun that you can carry and shoot anywhere...

Maybe someone could make this happen for us. :)
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Really????

The overall length of the skorp is like 6" (stock folded) so if you were to add a 18.6" bbl to it, it would be incredibly ridiculous looking. Much, much worse then the non restricted BRS99
 
fnrob said:
The Skorpion pistol is prohibited for two reasons - by being named via Order in Council as prohibited, and by being a .32 ACP pistol. The Skorpion rifle is apparently not considered to be a variant of the pistol, so it isn't prohibited.

http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/regu/sor-98-462/latest/sor-98-462.html



As far as restricted status is concerned, the only designs named to be restricted by OIC are AR variants and the High Standard Model 10 bullpup shotgun (if you handed in the "bullpup" stock, but that's another story), so the only factor that is keeping these Skorpion rifles restricted is the barrel length. Theoretically, they should be able to be re-barreled to non-restricted.
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That's what I was thinking... in addition to a dealer having a bunch of skorpion auto PISTOL mags brought in and pinned and sold to us skorpion 'RIFLE' owners... 10 rounds? Think there would be problems there?

Also, a NR barrel on the skorpion 'rifle' would look funky, but it would give it a non restricted status. I'd be in for one :)
 
Jericho said:
That's what I was thinking... in addition to a dealer having a bunch of skorpion auto PISTOL mags brought in and pinned and sold to us skorpion 'RIFLE' owners... 10 rounds? Think there would be problems there?

Also, a NR barrel on the skorpion 'rifle' would look funky, but it would give it a non restricted status. I'd be in for one :)
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http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/regu/sor-98-462/latest/sor-98-462.html
PROHIBITED DEVICES

Former Cartridge Magazine Control Regulations


  • 3. (1) Any cartridge magazine
    • (a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in
      • (i) a semi-automatic handgun that is not commonly available in Canada,
      • (ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,
      • (iii) an automatic firearm whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger,
      • (iv) the firearms of the designs commonly known as the Ingram M10 and M11 pistols, and any variants or modified versions of them, including the Cobray M10 and M11 pistols, the RPB M10, M11 and SM11 pistols and the SWD M10, M11, SM10 and SM11 pistols,
      • (v) the firearm of the design commonly known as the Partisan Avenger Auto Pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, or
      • (vi) the firearm of the design commonly known as the UZI pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Micro-UZI pistol; or
    • (b) that is capable of containing more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada.
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Unfortunately, the "commonly available in Canada" clause shoots that idea down. There are no Skorpion pistols left in Canada in civilian hands, as they were confiscated in '92 under C-17.
 
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