SKS accuracy

Murray 3-D said:
I very much agreed with the first part of your statement... but then u lost me at the 5-7" AR 15 groups haha

My 20" Colt A2 sporter will even put the cheap UMC stuff into a 3" group. 5-7" means somethings wrong with the gun. Its good to have realistic expectations, but when optimistically turning out 5-7" groups with a conventional firearm.... id just put the gun down and switch to a Musket lol
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You're talking an ar15 with stock irons here? Consistent 3" groups at 100m with a rack grade ar15 and bulk ammo just shooting off a range bag? With irons?
 
I have a pretty nice Chinese variant that is quite accurate compared to others. I can do consistant 3 to 3.5 moa and once went under 3 (2.7) all with iron sights. One day I may try a scope or a peep site but feel I would be cheating somehow. The SKS is what it is and I enjoy shooting it stock with iron sights.
 
6x8 steel plate at 200m from a bench with milsurp ammo. Both of my Russian SKS do it no problem. I have no idea about MOA but it hits the plate. That's all I need to know. I remember that day, lots of snow coming down, we set steel in the bunker, my buddies were shooting all sorts of rifles at it couldnt hit it, I was shooting pistol for the most part, moved to 200 for a duck of it, grabbed an SKS and it went "ding, ding, ding, ding, ding". They went "WTF??".
 
HI; I reload Hornady 123 SST bullets, IMR 4198, brass cases, and pull out the recoil rod and single shoot off a rest. Minute of enough target for me. Ruskie refurb.
 
Bubba Yugga said:
Is there a manual ANYWHERE with data for 150ish grain projos?
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Yes Hornady 6th Edition has a whole page.I use Sierra .311 SP's.H4198/IMR 4198 or RE#7 works well @ 2100-2200fps.May pull out the .311 stem from the die and try .308 dia for comparison.
 
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I scoped a russian sks and got 8 inch groups at 100yards LOL
so I got 2 chinese ones I'm playing with right now.

So far I have got 5inch groups. I will transfer the scope on to the other one and see what I get. the bore is tighter on it.
Not sure what the ammo is....Dark green cases. wish me luck !

I just got some copper washed stuff...will try that.
 
mbogo3 said:
Claybirds are toast at 100 yards with mine open sights benched.
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My experience too, I find my particular example of SKS to be surprisingly accurate.

Shimming it tight in the stock to eliminate the slop back and forth is a simple and effective way to shrink groups.
 
Using Prvi, Hornady or Barnaul, 3 inch average consistently at 50 metres. I often get better groups using Prvi SP when I make a special effort to aim--hard for me to do with a bullet hose. This is out of my IZH 2008 import as-issued 1954 Tula. I had a beat-up 1950 Tula refurb that would perform even better.
 
klaus enuff said:
My experience too, I find my particular example of SKS to be surprisingly accurate.

Shimming it tight in the stock to eliminate the slop back and forth is a simple and effective way to shrink groups.
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I agree. It seems that loose stock fit is the #1 problem for SKS accuracy. On most rifles you can wiggle the receiver in the stock like 1/16" side to side and all that's keeping it in there is pressure from the trigger group spring. It might as well be a bullet hose at that point.

I've found that if you bed the back of the receiver and the trigger group your groups will shrink down to 4" or less, which is about the same kind of accuracy you can expect from most good condition milsurp rifles.

Riflechair has a good video on how to do this, though I like to bed the front ferrule as well to stop the action from lifting there.

 
I find with the cheapest ammo, an average SKS is good for "combat hits" for about 300 meters provided you are a decent shot/have decent eyes...meaning hitting a full sized IPSC torso sized target, 18" wide by 30" tall....so even a 6MOA rifle should be able to do this, most SKS' are not THAT bad!!!

IF you use better ammo, tighten the action to stock fit and make sure you sight it in properly (requires a sight tool) and you can clean it up a decent amount!!!
 
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