I agree. That's why I mentioned surplus ammo in the OP. I'm more than likely going to be shooting LOTS of surplus ammo. I won't blame the rifle, just wanted a rough idea.
Easyrider604, given the conditions....that group would still be "effective"
SKS accuracy...?
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I agree. That's why I mentioned surplus ammo in the OP. I'm more than likely going to be shooting LOTS of surplus ammo. I won't blame the rifle, just wanted a rough idea.
Easyrider604, given the conditions....that group would still be "effective"
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The way the action attaches to the trigger group and magazine, combined with the way the stock is hollowed out makes it really hard to do any bedding unless you cast the whole thing and forget about taking it apart effectively making it into one piece. I don't think you can do any real bedding and still be able to take it apart as it was meant to.
To begin with, I only state groups fired from a bench at 100yds, using a heavily weighted Lead Sled.
That being said, one of my SKS's (both are scoped) with a Butler Creek stock will shoot easy 1.25" groups. My other one, in its original configuration, used to shoot 4" groups. I slugged the barrel and found that the muzzle was very worn. I drilled out about the last inch of the barrel. Call it a "DEEP" crowning. LOL. Now it shoots 2" groups and will do it all day with Cz ammo. With PRVI Partisan, it will do better. I suppose I could handload for it, but I won't. Too easy to lose the brass. Anyway, I am satisfied with 2" groups form a milsurp rifle, using milsurp ammo.
That being said, one of my SKS's (both are scoped) with a Butler Creek stock will shoot easy 1.25" groups. My other one, in its original configuration, used to shoot 4" groups. I slugged the barrel and found that the muzzle was very worn. I drilled out about the last inch of the barrel. Call it a "DEEP" crowning. LOL. Now it shoots 2" groups and will do it all day with Cz ammo. With PRVI Partisan, it will do better. I suppose I could handload for it, but I won't. Too easy to lose the brass. Anyway, I am satisfied with 2" groups form a milsurp rifle, using milsurp ammo.
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Easyrider604, given the conditions....that group would still be "effective"
Yup, well within "minute of imperialist dog", as mentioned in a previous thread. No doubt on the effectivity/accuracy out to 200 meters. Shooters with better eyesight and breathing/trigger control than myself can definitely shoot smaller groups at any distance.
Using a scope ( drill and tap mount) and off a bench,
2 1/2" groups @ 100 yards using Yugo M67 or Russian
Golden Tiger. Group size increases to about 3 1/2" as
barrel heats. I originally had vertical stringing issues
with about a 6" spread, floated the barrel and eliminated
the stringing. As far as bedding goes, not required, if the
receiver is loose simply add a shim between the rear of
the receiver and the stock until the receiver is snug to
the crossbolt.
2 1/2" groups @ 100 yards using Yugo M67 or Russian
Golden Tiger. Group size increases to about 3 1/2" as
barrel heats. I originally had vertical stringing issues
with about a 6" spread, floated the barrel and eliminated
the stringing. As far as bedding goes, not required, if the
receiver is loose simply add a shim between the rear of
the receiver and the stock until the receiver is snug to
the crossbolt.
Meph, very cool peep sight on that sks....who makes it ....where do I get one....and does it flip down out of the way to use battle sights?
I think the accuracy of the SKS is hit or miss. Sometimes you get a shooter and sometimes you just don't.
I have shot someones SKS that would print nice 5-6" groups @100 with open sights.
I have owned a 1951 Russian that would honestly zing the bullets out there within 12" at best. It kind of sucked actually, but it is not very common for all SKS rifles to be that poor.
Unfortunately I sold my SKS, which I actually regret despite the poor accuracy. I ended up buying a CZ-858, and its prints 4" groups with open sights @100 yards, so I am much more pleased with the accuracy.
I think that the ammo has alot to do with it. If I could get my hands on some Remington hunting ammo, I bet it would be alot more accurate.
I have shot someones SKS that would print nice 5-6" groups @100 with open sights.
I have owned a 1951 Russian that would honestly zing the bullets out there within 12" at best. It kind of sucked actually, but it is not very common for all SKS rifles to be that poor.
Unfortunately I sold my SKS, which I actually regret despite the poor accuracy. I ended up buying a CZ-858, and its prints 4" groups with open sights @100 yards, so I am much more pleased with the accuracy.
I think that the ammo has alot to do with it. If I could get my hands on some Remington hunting ammo, I bet it would be alot more accurate.
nice shooting Meph. With factory sights I can shoot clay discs at 100 yards and man size targets all day at 200 yards. Peep sights make a great improvement for my eyes. I'm an iron sights kind of guy, but a low-mediem power scope won't make any rifle less accurate.
I'm sure anyone here (that has the eyesight for it or good glasses I guess) can have similar accuracy. The rifle is capable of less than 3", sometimes less than 2", but you'll have to either be lucky and have your rifle like the surplus (will have the odd flier however) or find a brand of civvie it likes, or load your own. The main reason for the SKS not shooting straight is poor sights, poor trigger, very short stock for the average guy and poor ammo quality. I'm actually confident that the majority of SKSs out there can hit a dinner plate at 200 if the ammo and shooter are good. Sure there's the odd SKS that won't hit the barn from the inside, but I'm really not surprised when I hear people shooting 3" or under with your run of the mill Simonov gun, even the Norcs.
It really helps to sit down and concentrate on accuracy and consistency with a crate of surplus. You can shrink those groups right off the bat with practice. I've got a 5 shot group in my room with surplus and with the old crummy sights that's a hair over 2".
Norinco/Chinese SKS are deceptively accurate, I gotta give it to them, every Chinese built SKS I've shot was as accurate as my Russian one. Bit lighter too.
It really helps to sit down and concentrate on accuracy and consistency with a crate of surplus. You can shrink those groups right off the bat with practice. I've got a 5 shot group in my room with surplus and with the old crummy sights that's a hair over 2".
Norinco/Chinese SKS are deceptively accurate, I gotta give it to them, every Chinese built SKS I've shot was as accurate as my Russian one. Bit lighter too.
There is no doubt that good groups can be obtained with the SKS and surplus ammo but can those nice tight groups be do on a consistent basis. Target change after target change during that day at the range. I shoot the SKS because of the price of surplus ammo and to that note I am pretty happy with the results I am getting on a "consistent" basis at 100 and 200 metres with modified stock iron sights. My targets are a piece of 8 1/2X11 computer paper.
