SKS Failure To Fire

When you get the FTF is there an audible click from the hammer hitting the firing pin? If not is it possible your gas tube is clogged / restricted?
 
Yep, it goes click and puts a pin poke in the primer of each casing it's happened with. But even with a restricted gas tube, how would that cause a FTF? I could see a failure to cycle in that case but you should still get one shot off.
 
Well I did the bolt assembly swap with the roommates and Upon opening my last 100 round pack of BragGear I notice that this time the casings are a different color. All copper colored brass. Same color as the jacket of the bullet. Anyway, I shot about 60 rounds and got a whole bunch of FTEs but only one FTF. I believe the FTEs are due to the Baur plastic magazine. I'll have to switch back to the original magazine and try. I don't believe the FTF is a bolt or firing pin issue. It has to be ####ty ammo or something faulty in the trigger assembly. There is also a possibility that the felt on my rail is not situated good enough and could be rebounding the brass right back into the feed path. But I won't know for sure until I switch mags and test again. I think my trigger assembly is compromised. Because my roommate has not one problem with her sks shooting this exact ammo. I'll try a mag/trigger group swap with the guns and report back again.
 
I got my 1320 crate of Romanian x39 today. It was a long ass stressful 11 hour work day and I got home to it sitting on my front door step. I'm sure my sister must have been home next door and signed for it because it would be odd of them to just dump a crate of ammunition there and leave...

Any way I have eliminated the action assembly, re-installed my factory magazine and I have a different trigger assembly installed. If I still have problems with the trigger group and different ammo then I have no clue and will be buying another gun.
 
Ok, my update on this issue as well as my conclusion. The ammo is fine, the action is fine. The problem is my trigger assembly but I don't think its a spring problem so much as a mechanical wear issue. Part of the assembly is failing to reset properly. I am going to order a new trigger group and make my faulty one a gunsmithing project. Now before I order, are you all completely sure that Chinese trigger groups are compatible with all Russian guns? Are you sure that it doesn't depend on the year of the rifles? Also, if any of you can suggest a good online source to buy from I'd appreciate that.
 
Its Czech! Czech! Do you not realize how annoy it is as a Czech/Ukrainian to see people say Czeck, or Check, or Czechoslovakian! We are Czechs! Get it right! Its as annoying as hearing someone say Bruno instead of Brno! It is Brno not Bruno!
 
You cannot just swap bolts without headspace gauges. It's unsafe.
Where are you planning on ordering a trigger group for a milsurp from? Just curious, but there are no distributors of new SKS parts. Most of 'em are sold by the part and rarely as a whole group. Anyway, if the thing goes bang and reloads, there is nothing wrong with the trigger group.
A pin poked primer indicates an insufficient whack on said primer. That is usually a spring issue.
If the 'E' in FTE is extraction, that's a gas issue or maybe a rough chamber. If it's an ejection failure, change the ejector spring.
And remember that owning a milsurp is fun. It's just like owning old cars.
 
Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
Its Czech! Czech! Do you not realize how annoy it is as a Czech/Ukrainian to see people say Czeck, or Check, or Czechoslovakian! We are Czechs! Get it right! Its as annoying as hearing someone say Bruno instead of Brno! It is Brno not Bruno!
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Yeah well you guys have a funny way of spelling things. This is Canada. If it means that much to you, then move back to Chekosouvlakia.

See? your name says it all!
 
sunray said:
You cannot just swap bolts without headspace gauges. It's unsafe.
Where are you planning on ordering a trigger group for a milsurp from? Just curious, but there are no distributors of new SKS parts. Most of 'em are sold by the part and rarely as a whole group. Anyway, if the thing goes bang and reloads, there is nothing wrong with the trigger group.
A pin poked primer indicates an insufficient whack on said primer. That is usually a spring issue.
If the 'E' in FTE is extraction, that's a gas issue or maybe a rough chamber. If it's an ejection failure, change the ejector spring.
And remember that owning a milsurp is fun. It's just like owning old cars.
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OK you know when you have your trigger group out and you fire it by hand, you hold the disconnector down just the right amount and when you pull the trigger the the hammer flies forward OR if you release the disconector just before a full trigger pull the hammer will only click forward a little, of course that is normal too but when my trigger group is in this stage, you should not be able to push down on the disconector and release the hammer. Mine does. That's not normal.
 
ShotgunNut said:
OK you know when you have your trigger group out and you fire it by hand, you hold the disconnector down just the right amount and when you pull the trigger the the hammer flies forward OR if you release the disconector just before a full trigger pull the hammer will only click forward a little, of course that is normal too but when my trigger group is in this stage, you should not be able to push down on the disconector and release the hammer. Mine does. That's not normal.
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The E in fte is failure to eject. At the time I had a plastic after market mag in, I reinstalled the original mag and bolt assembly ect but swapped trigger assemblies with a friend. I shot off 200 rounds yesterday without a single failure to fire or failure to eject. That is why my suspicion is back on the trigger group. I'll see if I can make a video with my phone or something.
 
ShotgunNut said:
Yeah well you guys have a funny way of spelling things. This is Canada. If it means that much to you, then move back to Chekosouvlakia.

See? your name says it all!
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Pistol is a Czech world and you don't #### that up now do you? Its not my fault you're ignorant and now after being told, you just don't care. Since you don't care, I can't take you seriously ever.
 
sunray said:
You cannot just swap bolts without headspace gauges. It's unsafe.
Where are you planning on ordering a trigger group for a milsurp from? Just curious, but there are no distributors of new SKS parts. Most of 'em are sold by the part and rarely as a whole group. Anyway, if the thing goes bang and reloads, there is nothing wrong with the trigger group.
A pin poked primer indicates an insufficient whack on said primer. That is usually a spring issue.
If the 'E' in FTE is extraction, that's a gas issue or maybe a rough chamber. If it's an ejection failure, change the ejector spring.
And remember that owning a milsurp is fun. It's just like owning old cars.
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There are places that you can get whole trigger groups from. Marstar used to sell them but are out. Lever arms has the complete trigger groups. They are Chinese though.
 
Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
Pistol is a Czech world and you don't #### that up now do you? Its not my fault you're ignorant and now after being told, you just don't care. Since you don't care, I can't take you seriously ever.
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Allow me to edit my negative retort with a more positive one because I realize I'm not here to make enemies. I apologize for misspelling the word. It's not a word I use very often yet and offending you was not the intention. I will make sure to spell it as "Czech" from now on. Thank you for correcting me.
 
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ljones said:
There are places that you can get whole trigger groups from. Marstar used to sell them but are out. Lever arms has the complete trigger groups. They are Chinese though.
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Yeah Marstar is a place I will definitely be ordering from soon. Fair prices too. I checked out the Chinese ones at Lever Arms, reasonable prices as well for a whole complete group, and it notes that they might need minor fitting to go in the Russian guns. Is that true? What is it that needs mods, the parts or the stock?
 
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