blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- A blue part of Ontario
I'd take the shotgun for sub 100m shots.
sks for moose?
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burnt_servo
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- right in the middle of b.c.
i'm not trying to be a a$$ , but can you point me to where in the regs it says you can't use slugs on moose here in b.c. ?
this is the first i have heard of this .
No worries.
Page 16 of 2010-2012 regs. Shotguns are a NO for
Bison
Caribouo
Elk
Grizzly Bear
MOOSE
Mountain Goat
Mountain Sheep
Planning on using my 12ga with Sabot slugs for deer this year. I have an SKS as well, and think it would be fine inside of 150-200 yards for Moose. Well placed is good advise for ANY calibre rifle.
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- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
If you are depending on the semi auto to put more lead into it, and figure that's how you're gonna get your moose, leave it at home.
One well placed shot is a zillion times better than ten bad ones.
Seriously, when you find yourself within a few yards of a huge moose, that can flatten you at will, it's not the time to be second guessing what you chose for a cartridge. I've been there, twice at under 25 feet. Once, at ten feet.
If you are a long time, cool headed hunter, you might do all right. If you are a newbie, you could get hurt bad.
For close up, if it's legal, I'd chose the slug over the Russian cartridge. I'd prefer a rifle.
Drop in to your local gun shop and pick up an SMLE, or #4 Mk1in 303Br. They can be had for under two hundred bucks, and will kill moose as well as anything out there, out to at least two hundred yards.
One well placed shot is a zillion times better than ten bad ones.
Seriously, when you find yourself within a few yards of a huge moose, that can flatten you at will, it's not the time to be second guessing what you chose for a cartridge. I've been there, twice at under 25 feet. Once, at ten feet.
If you are a long time, cool headed hunter, you might do all right. If you are a newbie, you could get hurt bad.
For close up, if it's legal, I'd chose the slug over the Russian cartridge. I'd prefer a rifle.
Drop in to your local gun shop and pick up an SMLE, or #4 Mk1in 303Br. They can be had for under two hundred bucks, and will kill moose as well as anything out there, out to at least two hundred yards.
i second this motion
- Location
- London, Ontario
Thats pretty ####ty for you guys
On the other hand except for bison you can use a centerfire rifle in 22 hornet on the rest ,even grizzlies in BC.
I find that a bit disturbing. You are suggesting that if you see game at range that is too long, you shoot anyway??? Why would anyone do that?
Whether your effective range is 400 yards or 40 yards (bow hunters for example) a good hunter knows how far he can humanely take whatever game he is after, and just does not shoot beyond that range.
Every hunter accepts the range limitations of his ability with the equipment he is using, or he is a lousy hunter which should make the range limitations irrelevant if the OP is willing to live with them.
I would go with a good shot gun slug and some practice.
or, a proper hunting rifle!... not sure why it's limited to milsurp rifles
Where I live a lot of guys own and hunt with an SKS. And seen them shoot moose at ranges up to 200yds. So unless a person is just a bad shot, then I can see why you would say this. Knowing your rifle and how it performs is knowing wither or not you can hit what your aiming at and effectively kill it in the first shot.
load up some Barnes TSX, they make a bullet specific for the 7.62x39. Guys have shot alot of moose with the 30-30 not much difference between that and the 7.62x39.
Most moose are close shots to begin with as their habitat dictates this for the most part.
Cheers!!
Most moose are close shots to begin with as their habitat dictates this for the most part.
Cheers!!
It all comes down to the skill of the hunter. As a kid, I saw an old Indian that lived on a corner of our ranch shoot a grizz with his single shot .22. Crept up to him and put the round in his ear. Not something that I wud wish to do, but to him it was just old hat.
All my early hunting as a kid was done with the 30-30. Bear, moose, elk or deer, did not matter. It is all in the bullit placement.
As the 7.62X39 is much the same as the 30-30, pick ur range and target and ur good to go (not talking FMJ rounds for the SKS). And yes....buck fever can be rough for the newie hunter. Just control ur breathing..............
All my early hunting as a kid was done with the 30-30. Bear, moose, elk or deer, did not matter. It is all in the bullit placement.
As the 7.62X39 is much the same as the 30-30, pick ur range and target and ur good to go (not talking FMJ rounds for the SKS). And yes....buck fever can be rough for the newie hunter. Just control ur breathing..............
Derail time!
Lol buck fever! one of the most experienced hunters in our camp caught a case, and he doesnt get excited... drives into a short off road in the area we hunt to see a cow and a calf eating in a small puddle of a pond waters maybe 2 feet deep.... stops the truck jumps out, grabs a clip and then stands there and does the homer dance... ohh man... hurry up and move!!!! calf was standing behind the cow.. cant take it any more so he shoots into the water near them... the range is 60yards... they calmly look around... and slowly start to walk off accross the shallow pond... BANG! BANG! BANG! CLICK! crap!!! runs back to the truck for the other clip... kacunk! BANG! BANG! 80yards BANG! BANG! CLICK back to the truck for his lat remaing round... must be shooting high.... 90 yards... BANG! CRAPOLLA!!! back to the truck out comes the single shot 12G with a slug... loads, aims, sighs... 120yards max, walking away broadside wide open terrrian... you just gota know when to quite... I spent 2 hours tracking them to make sure he didnt wound one... been laughing ever since.
ohh after the tracking we stopped at small pit... 70yards he can hit the 2" circle on the bottom of a 5 gallon pail repeatably... he blames his heart medication... but we all know it was buck fever!
Lol buck fever! one of the most experienced hunters in our camp caught a case, and he doesnt get excited... drives into a short off road in the area we hunt to see a cow and a calf eating in a small puddle of a pond waters maybe 2 feet deep.... stops the truck jumps out, grabs a clip and then stands there and does the homer dance... ohh man... hurry up and move!!!! calf was standing behind the cow.. cant take it any more so he shoots into the water near them... the range is 60yards... they calmly look around... and slowly start to walk off accross the shallow pond... BANG! BANG! BANG! CLICK! crap!!! runs back to the truck for the other clip... kacunk! BANG! BANG! 80yards BANG! BANG! CLICK back to the truck for his lat remaing round... must be shooting high.... 90 yards... BANG! CRAPOLLA!!! back to the truck out comes the single shot 12G with a slug... loads, aims, sighs... 120yards max, walking away broadside wide open terrrian... you just gota know when to quite... I spent 2 hours tracking them to make sure he didnt wound one... been laughing ever since.
ohh after the tracking we stopped at small pit... 70yards he can hit the 2" circle on the bottom of a 5 gallon pail repeatably... he blames his heart medication... but we all know it was buck fever!
canadaman30
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Far from the City
Hands down I would not use a SKS for moose over a shotgun, for guys to say about a wounded animal out past 100yards well considering a 50cal slug has more than double the energy of a 7.62x39, you can see for yourself the clear winner in the energy dept. My 2 cents looking at ballistics, an SKS is no moose gun.
12g 385g Win. Partition- 100yds=2400ft/pds, 150yds=2000ft/pds
7.62x39 Win. SP 123g- 100yds=1130ft/pds, 150yds=950ft/pds
12g 385g Win. Partition- 100yds=2400ft/pds, 150yds=2000ft/pds
7.62x39 Win. SP 123g- 100yds=1130ft/pds, 150yds=950ft/pds
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
equal? not quite
30-30 130 grain, 24-2500 fps .
7.62x39 125 grain 2400 fps max
both the above are handloads, there are three 30-30 loads on Hogdon's site that push 2500fps.
170 grain bullets with the 7.2X39 not an option. 30-30 pushes them at up to 2200fps
They ain't equal.
30-30 130 grain, 24-2500 fps .
7.62x39 125 grain 2400 fps max
both the above are handloads, there are three 30-30 loads on Hogdon's site that push 2500fps.
170 grain bullets with the 7.2X39 not an option. 30-30 pushes them at up to 2200fps
They ain't equal.
