SKS for spring bear??

The .308 is what I would use but the 7.62x39 will also work with the right bullet and shot placement at reasonable ranges. I have personal experience with the 7.62x39 on a large black bear boar using Barnes 123 TSX. Shot distance was about 35yds and the bullet broke the shoulder and exited the far side just behind the shoulder. The big boar only went about 20yds and that was it.

x 2.......an SKS would do it with good ammo and shot placement ; but a 308 will do it better with confidence . The last thing you want is a wounded bear running around in the woods..........just my personal opinion.....Good Luck with the hunt......
 
No you definitely need a .900 Planet Wrecker to be on the safe side.

Problem with the .900 Planet Wrecker is it's too heavy. I'll have to shoot through a tree to slow the round down!!
Seriously, came back from sighting in the SKS. Piece of Sh$t at 100yds prone. Bad news: scored one round hit. Good news: the 100m elevation was bang on! 5 rounds fired. 3 rounds at 50 kneeling: 0 hits. 2 rounds at 25: dead center but 1.5 inches low. Fired buddy's 7mm, 2 inch group at 100. Hit pop cans regularly at the same range.
Yes, I like my call sign. No, I don't want the bayonet to be the bear's toothpick.
Oh yeah, had 3 FTF and the tip of the soft point ammo jammed and was blunted on the feed ramp!! Who ever heard of a failure with an SKS?!?!
My .308 is an XCR-M with a Leopold Patrol scope. Rifle weighs about 12 lbs loaded. Gonna be heavy! That one hits gongs at 240m at my range. The SKS stays home!! Thanks for making me see the light but had to find out for myself. I'm obviously not good enough with open sights and certainly not waiting for a bear to get within 25yds of me!!
 
An sks will work fine if you find some good bullets and keep it to a range that you are confident to shoot. I shot my last deer at 90 yards with an open sighted marlin lever gun. With a good rest of course..
 
I know the rifle as far as using it as a paper puncher. I can take it apart and put it back together without a manual and I'm familiar with firearms. I've never taken it into the woods or hunted with one. Is my choice of ammo appropriate?

Any ammo that feeds reliably. I would test the crap out of it with various types of ammo and see what it likes. My go-to SKS will eat anything I feed it; single shot or rapid fire. 1000+ rounds and not one stoppage to date. I can trust that particular SKS on a bear hunt.

Know your rifle.
 
Killed bear with everything form a .223 to a .375.

SHoot it in the correct place at a reasonable distance and the bear will die. Just be dilligenbt about shot placement, that is what really matters.
 
for me and sks with open sights (even peep sights) hunting is a short range proposition. With a nice solid scope, hunting ammo and an accurate sks, it's a different story. Mind you, I never have shot a bear...

On paper, it's accurate enough for me, and there are those that have successfully used it for deer, bear, elk.
 
No it didn't... you are think of the 7X57...

I think he's referring to poachers where 3-5 guys with AKs open up full auto. Many elephants have been killed like that, though I seriously doubt that more have succumbed to a barrage of AK fire than to any other. I think we can agree that's not the way to do it, regardless of which animal is the target. When sport hunting, there should be a reasonable expectation of a one shot kill, the mantra, "if you can't shoot good, shoot lots" doesn't really apply. Had the rifle in question been a Ruger or a CZ bolt gun, and the 7.62X39s were loaded with 130 gr TSXs or 150 gr lead core bullets over hot loads, .30/30 performance is realized and I wouldn't be as critical as I am towards an SKS loaded with factory ammo.

I killed my first black bear with a .303 loaded with 180 soft points. The bear was on a rock outcrop above me when I shot him, from about 70 yards, my preference is still hunting, rather than from a stand over bait. I got up there as quick as I could, circling well behind him. I found him a short time later, lying on his side in a small depression in the rock; I was surprised how difficult he was to see, and if I hadn't been alert, I could have walked past him. I was expecting to see a prominent, eye catching ball of black hair, but in that depression as he was, his body was level with the surrounding ground, and for all intents and purposes he looked like a small patch of dark colored dirt as you sometimes see in the rock in that country. I approached him from the rear, and to be safe, I put another slug into him; at the shot his back leg immediately stiffened, then dropped. I was 16. Not only was it my first bear, it was my first big game animal, and looking back on it, I'm glad it was not with a marginal cartridge. Had I used less gun, and the same shot was presented, it might well have resulted in a wounded bear getting away, and would have forever altered my impression of big game hunting, and my ability to do it.

To me, general purpose hunting cartridges (which I define as those cartridges that are suitable for hunting any big game up to 1000 pounds in weight, under any circumstances) start with the 6.5s and 130 gr bullets, and tops out with the big case .416s. If you can't shoot it from any position including prone, then for you the cartridge is a niche cartridge, rather than a general purpose cartridge. But when I say that on CGN, it seems to annoy the 6mm and quarter bore enthusiasts, some of whom are my friends. One pal of mine claims his .25/06 kills moose as well with it's 100 gr TSX as his 7X57 does with a 140 loaded to 2900, so I can keep my hard kickers, although he has since upgraded (my word not his) to a .280 Remington. Clearly my opinion is not the only one, but in this case we're talking about a novice hunter who is contemplating the use of a rifle/cartridge combination, that is clearly inferior to a high velocity small bore, on a game animal that can be taken at short to moderate range, usually in or close to heavy cover. Bears come in a wide range of weights, the same adult bear can very 150 pounds between spring and fall, and you don't know before hand if the bear you encounter will weigh 150 pounds or 600. I think those experienced hunters who have suggested that the SKS will work in a pinch, are making that suggestion based on years of hunting experience rather than from the point of view of a novice, and that suggestion does him no service.
 
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I think he's referring to poachers where 3-5 guys with AKs open up full auto. Many elephants have been killed like that, though I seriously doubt that more have succumbed to a barrage of AK fire than to any other. I think we can agree that's not the way to do it, regardless of which animal is the target. When sport hunting, there should be a reasonable expectation of a one shot kill, the mantra, "if you can't shoot good, shoot lots" doesn't really apply. Had the rifle in question been a Ruger or a CZ bolt gun, and the 7.62X39s were loaded with 130 gr TSXs or 150 gr lead core bullets over hot loads, .30/30 performance is realized and I wouldn't be as critical as I am towards an SKS loaded with factory ammo.

I killed my first black bear with a .303 loaded with 180 soft points. The bear was on a rock outcrop above me when I shot him, from about 70 yards, my preference is still hunting, rather than from a stand over bait. I got up there as quick as I could, circling well behind him. I found him a short time later, lying on his side in a small depression in the rock; I was surprised how difficult he was to see, and if I hadn't been alert, I could have walked past him. I was expecting to see a prominent, eye catching ball of black hair, but in that depression as he was, his body was level with the surrounding ground, and for all intents and purposes he looked like a small patch of dark colored dirt as you sometimes see in the rock in that country. I approached him from the rear, and to be safe, I put another slug into him; at the shot and his back leg immediately, stiffened, then dropped. I was 16. Not only was it my first bear, it was my first big game animal, and looking back on it, I'm glad it was not with a marginal cartridge. Had I used less gun, and the same shot was presented, it might well have resulted in a wounded bear getting away, and would have forever altered my impression of big game hunting, and my ability to do it.

To me, general purpose hunting cartridges (which I define as those cartridges that are suitable for hunting any big game up to 1000 pounds in weight, under any circumstances) start with the 6.5s and 130 gr bullets, and tops out with the big case .416s. If you can't shoot it from any position including prone, then for you the cartridge is a niche cartridge, rather than a general purpose cartridge. But when I say that on CGN, it seems to annoy the 6mm and quarter bore enthusiasts, some of whom are my friends. One pal of mine claims his .25/06 kills moose as well with it's 100 gr TSX as his 7X57 does with a 140 loaded to 2900, so I can keep my hard kickers, although he has since upgraded (my word not his) to a .280 Remington. Clearly my opinion is not the only one, but in this case we're talking about a novice hunter who is contemplating the use of a rifle/cartridge combination, that is clearly inferior to a high velocity small bore, on a game animal that can be taken at short to moderate range, usually in or close to heavy cover. Bears come in a wide range of weights, the same adult bear can very 150 pounds between spring and fall, and you don't know before hand if the bear you encounter will weigh 150 pounds or 600. I think those experienced hunters who have suggested that the SKS will work in a pinch, are making that suggestion based on years of hunting experience rather than from the point of view of a novice, and that suggestion does him no service.
Thank you Boomer,
That was very eloquently put. I am a novice hunter. I have a lot of experience shooting non moving targets but never big or small game. I will be going with friends who are veteran hunters. Being a noob, that's why I was inquiring about whether the SKS is enough gun. I like it because it's light and rugged, mostly reliable and if I damage the gun in any way, it only cost me $200. I also knew, on paper, it met the .30 cal minimum. As mentioned in my last post, I have a XCR-M in .308 too. I know it is plenty enough for bear but it weighs a ton and costs a pretty penny. A scratch on my beauty would cost me sleep! I was going for practical here. BUT after my range test with the hunting ammo with the SKS, I have ZERO confidence of hitting anything at 50-100 yds with it. I know I can hit accurately with my .308 at that range but not with open sights on the SKS. I would be a liability to my friends if I messed up a bear and it would not be ethical. I will bring the XCR and when I come back from the trip, I will seriously think about getting a dedicated bolt action 7mm mag hunting rifle.
 
.308 IS a real hunting caliber...

Hoytcanon,
I agree! But like I said, with my current XCR, I would hate to damage it or lose it in the bush due to its cost of replacement. It's also too heavy to lug around. I'm gonna make a huge effort starting today to see if I can find 7.62x54 hunting ammo for my Mosin M38. I think that will do fine even though I've had very average accuracy with it. Tried to convince my wife I needed a dedicated hunting rifle after both my posts in Hunting and Milsurp. She says " With all the guns you have, you can't hunt with any of them??" Needless to say, that was the end of my attempt to buy a rifle.
 
Wanstalls had cases of LVE 203gr sp last month when I was in. Reliable might have some too. You can also get the LVE 203gr sp from Westrifle.
 
Just for the comment
30-30 and 7.62 x 39 are the same balisticly
So I'm sure bear have never died by 30-30
 
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