SKS Mag Adaptors ... Authorized version $139.95!!
- Thread starter MagWedge Industries
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I totally agree and the fact that the "legitimate" adaptor is almost 1/2 the price of the pirate version speaks volumes about those businesses trying to charge the "it takes 10 round pistol mag tax".
making the product under license from the owner of the design is a smart and a stand up move on Magwedge's part
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Yes.
I am glad this makes you chuckle, but it would be so much better if you could actually answer the questions. The "original" here means Marcus's product which he developed for the US market and which required magazine modification. It doesn't mean, for example that the product your are planning to sell (let's call it the Canadian version) can be used with clips because his "original" version did not work with clips.
From your other post I gather that you have tested the bolt open function. So this one is answered. I also understand that this will require receiver alteration to avoid modifying the magazine. So this one is also clear. Now please consider answering the rest of the questions:
3. Your adapter can be used with clips
4. Comment on hical's statement (true / false / fixed) re: your adapter has an issue with mag catch binding which hical addressed by designing catch arm with a "different geometryso it can't bind"
5. Mag release button can be pushed too far "allowing the mag catch to fall out of position, this is a problem with the USA design" - again, true / false / fixed?
6. Installation prices / guides?
PS. I am not affiliated with any party interested in profiting from selling / copying etc. of this adapter. I am planning to buy this adapter and possibly more than one. so am just doing my home work and trying to understand the value of your offering. If you are not sure about the answers maybe you should simply say so?
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It makes me chuckle because the designs are essentially the same, so there is no difference in function.
A fair minded man might suspect that these claims are likely attributable to 'creative marketing' and a desire to somehow justify not getting permission to produce an existing design in process of patent.
For example, the mag release button issue mentioned above is likely caused by a poor inletting job which allows the catch to over travel.
Marcus did go through all of your points one by one last night but our CGN overlords saw fit to nuke all of his posts here without notice.
That being said, let us consider that Marcus spent 3.5 years developing this system, and his customers are enthusiastic about the product. I find it doubtful that it has any major flaws worthy of more than $100 in price difference. And by the way Marcus did develop the rifle mods in addition to the mag mods for this system. If you check earlier in this thread I covered that ... its not a creation of the non authorized maker.
Nevertheless, we are in the process of learning the mag adaptor system and we will make any needed small improvements before final production. I do not intend to allow a poorly functioning system to be shipped to customers. That is why we are not rushing to pop this system through our machine shop in 2 weeks and hope for some quick money.
And let's call ours the "Authorized" Canadian version ...
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Marcus suggests the ASC brand 7.62x39 pistol mag but I suspect any decent quality AR15 type mag in that calibre will work ... mine say XCR pistol Mag 7.62x39
ASC is on the base plate
ASC is on the base plate
I like that actually... you know that King James Bible is also known as the Authorized Version? Hail King Marcus!
On a more serious note, I am glad that you are not rushing this to market and planning to take time and thoroughly test it. I'd rather wait for a few weeks and get a solid product that works. Good luck with the process and I will look forward to seeing it in stock in your online store.
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Well I suppose it depends on which side of the table you are sitting on.
As a guy who has had his designs ripped off I can assert its not a pleasant thing to see someone else profit from your idea. This is made doubly aggravating when you realize that they could have had a share of the profit by contacting you and working with you, but instead decided they wanted the whole ball of wax.
Being able to copy someones product isn't nearly the same as coming up with the idea and working all the bugs. Many people would consider that copying theft of intellectual property.
One disadvantage of the current state of near anarchy as regards the protection of intellectual property is that many advances are withheld from production and not made available because the inventor does not feel secure in his/her ability to produce a new invention. I can personally state that I have several very nice ideas that have been held in reserve for over a year until the time is right to produce them.
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I like that actually... you know that King James Bible is also known as the Authorized Version ? Hail King Marcus!
LOL do I get to type in all red letters?
No, you should never confuse the word of a King with the word of God
Write a long preface and dedication instead. Start with the following line:"TO THE MOST HIGH AND MIGHTY PRINCE MARCUS, BY THE GRACE OF GOD"
But seriously, as to the question who wronged who and who stole what etc... I really think that there are two sides to this story. And both sides have some merit. This horsey's been bitten up to death so many times already that I have decided to refrain from delivering my own kicks to the poor animal. Let it rest in peace. Horse is dead. Hail King Marcus!
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No, you should never confuse the word of a King with the word of God
"TO THE MOST HIGH AND MIGHTY PRINCE MARCUS, BY THE GRACE OF GOD"But seriously, as to the question who wronged who and who stole what etc... I really think that there are two sides to this story. And both sides have some merit. This horsey's been bitten up to death so many times already that I have decided to refrain from delivering my own kicks to the poor animal. Let it rest in peace. Horse is dead. Hail King Marcus!
I don't intend to allow the thread to devolve into a giant debate over the rights and wrongs of this case.
I do have some sympathy with Marcus, given the work he has put into this project and due to our similar situations as designers/inventors.
But that issue has been aired as fully as it can be now and I am prepared to move forward and produce the best product at the best possible price for the Canadian Firearms Community.
BadLieutenant
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People should start to get some of the XCR 7.62x39 10 Round AR15 Pistol Magazine before they are all gone!
Just bought 4 more.....at less than $25 a piece
Just bought 4 more.....at less than $25 a piece
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People should start to get some of the XCR 7.62x39 10 Round AR15 Pistol Magazine before they are all gone!
Just bought 4 more.....at less than $25 a piece
Nice, where?
BadLieutenant
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I got them at The Ammo Source.......... 107 Units in Stock.....time to get a good bargain!
I just checked Kelly's Sporting Goods and my total with shipping would have been the same with these guys.......$1 more per mag......$4 less shipping!
I just checked Kelly's Sporting Goods and my total with shipping would have been the same with these guys.......$1 more per mag......$4 less shipping!
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