SKS markings help
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Mine has this too. I am pretty sure it means it was refurbished in 2013. Mine has a 16.
Mine is a lot like yours, parkerized barrel and receiver. My bore looks brand new. What ever you paid was a really good deal in my opinion. Next to no collector value since its not original
Mine is a lot like yours, parkerized barrel and receiver. My bore looks brand new. What ever you paid was a really good deal in my opinion. Next to no collector value since its not original
They call them Molot marks, export marks required to be able to ship out of Russia! Or so I have been told! Magically turns them into a sporting rifle!
Bubba Yugga
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It's a Molot refurb.
That is not a Parkerized finish. It's some kind of evil concoction that probably includes laser toner dust and India ink.
If you soak it in methyl hydrate and wire brush the crap out of it, it will come off.
You will then discover a grey surface that was sandblasted and acid etched or anodized.
800 grit silicon carbide and steel wool will render a bluable surface.
I've restored a couple this way, but it'sa lot of work.
Wear gloves if you value your kidneys, liver and pancreas.
That is not a Parkerized finish. It's some kind of evil concoction that probably includes laser toner dust and India ink.
If you soak it in methyl hydrate and wire brush the crap out of it, it will come off.
You will then discover a grey surface that was sandblasted and acid etched or anodized.
800 grit silicon carbide and steel wool will render a bluable surface.
I've restored a couple this way, but it'sa lot of work.
Wear gloves if you value your kidneys, liver and pancreas.
Interesting, thank you.
Bubba Yugga
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Midwestern Ontario
Only the 49s and 50s had the spring loaded pins before going to the floaters.
The bolt carrier, bolt and all its guts are not interchangeable with other vintages.
Maybe as a set, but I wouldn't try it.
It does take a bit of oomph out of it, so if you're using surplus ammo, don't install the 27 lb Wolff hammer spring.
The bolt carrier, bolt and all its guts are not interchangeable with other vintages.
Maybe as a set, but I wouldn't try it.
It does take a bit of oomph out of it, so if you're using surplus ammo, don't install the 27 lb Wolff hammer spring.
I own a plethora of these firearms, but have never seen this type of marking.
Gun is unfired, spot clean, stock is only stamped with serial number, magazine is mismatched with clean internal post limiter.
Like the others mentioned you have a Molot SKS refurb. The meaning of the markings is as follows:
O П-CKC - охотничье-промысловый ("commercial hunting (carbine)) - SKS
B П- Вятско-Полянский машиностроительный завод «Молот»- Vyatsko-Polansky Molot machine work plant - symbol of the Molot plant
CIP/N- a mandatory proof mark
Г И C - God Izgotvlenya Serii 13- Year of Series Production 13 - looks like it was assembled from parts (?) in 2013?.
I have a very similar MOLOT SKS re-assembled in 2014. It is very well built with a very nice rifling, obviously chrome-lined and, surprisingly, that "barbecue" paint is pretty resistant to handling. Having said that, I've found mine to be a bit less accurate than my laminated 1957 Tula letter series SKS (a very light refurb). All I can get from the Molot is a 5-7" group whereas my laminated 1957 gives me a 3-5" group at 100 yards. Anyway, the Molot is still a fun to shoot and I don't complain.
sestroretsk
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- Nova Scotia
That is the year the rifle was turned in SKS-OP, and registered as a civilian rifle. Not necessarily assembled from parts, just they year it started its new life as a civilian rifle.
Thanks for more insight. However, I wonder when exactly were those SKS's refurbished then? They look immaculate, having fresh paint (barbecue but nevertheless well made), shiny bores (looks like freshly chrome lined), very clean gas tube, well cleaned stock, etc. etc. Their nearly new condition gave me the idea that the year printed on the barrel is the year of re-assembly. So may be it's both, assembly®istration?
sestroretsk
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I can't state that all rifles marked in such a manner were not assembled from pieces.
My personal theory on most Molot and Tulsky imported firearms is that those are being taken out of the last lines of service (assorted police forces, guards, etc), and surplussed, rather than coming out of permanent storage like the non-import marked stuff is (not to say that that is a firm rule - I've seen Tulsky import PU snipers show up with not scroll marks like that). Quite a few SKSs marked like that were clearly used before surplussing, not a trace of oil in them, powder residue, some were full of sand.
The thicker pattern of laminate like on that example came into use in the 1960s. Before that, the laminate pattern used during WWII and shortly after is of much finer grain, looks kind of like laminate K98 stocks.
After discounting them when they first appeared, the export marked ones (SKSs, Mosins, TTs, what have you) are usually the ones I'll examine in closer detail these days, rather than 'supergrade' or A grade stuff. I don't care about condition, but rather features and factory-matching.
I thought ГИС meant "Государственная Испытательная Станция по испытанию ручного огнестерельного оружия и патронов" or basically a "State owned proof house for testing of small arms and cartridges".
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They are regular sks, put through this plant and marked just to get past the Russian govt restrictions on export! The refurbs (if done) on these sks were done mostly in the 60's-70's just before they were put in long term storage, very simple! The markings magically make them remanufactured to civilian sport rifles, OK to export!
