SKS Mechanically Simliar to 858?

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Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question

To me the SKS and the 858 look like they could be the same rifle:
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Are they mechanically similar in any way?

Since the SKS is from Russia, does it have any mechanical similarities to the AK47?


Thx
 
i will answer your second question.
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SKS and AK are not mechanically the same. their bolts are different and gas system is different
 
there is no part that is interchangeable between the SKS, AK47 and CZ858 except the front sight post that will fit SKS and the AK47 .
 
OK fair enough.

I think what I was trying to get at is if the mechanisms are similar in function. Everyone goes to great length expressing the vast differences between an AK and an 858. But is it the same for an SKS vs 858?

I realize that an SKS has no interchangeable parts, but I was wondering if the SKS and 858 are related in function. Ie do they operate in a similar fashion? Do they have the same (non interchangeable) parts?

Sorry for being so vague I penned that early this morning on a whim! :redface:
 
What was it,
SKS was developed from an anti-tank rifle
AK47 from the germen mp44
And VZ58 from ?
Their lineage is different.
 
Perple_Nerple said:
Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question

To me the SKS and the 858 look like they could be the same rifle:
[youtube]mMsd_qqaPzM[/youtube]


Are they mechanically similar in any way?

Since the SKS is from Russia, does it have any mechanical similarities to the AK47?


Thx
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They both fire 7.62x39, thats the only similarity. The SKS is hammer fired, the 858 is striker fired for one.
 
lone-wolf said:
What was it,
SKS was developed from an anti-tank rifle
AK47 from the germen mp44
And VZ58 from ?
Their lineage is different.
Click to expand...

Dmitri said:
Are you sure... that AK47 had anything to do with MP44... Doesnt sound right...
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You're right about that. The AK started development in 1943 when its inventor, Mikhail Kalashnikov (who was a tank commander in the Soviet Army at the time) was wounded and in hospital for recuperation (he was also an inventor). His first prototype of what became the AK-47 was accepted by the Red Army for further development in 1944.

The rifle that became the MP44 started development in 1942, when the Wehrmacht issued a request for prototypes for a rifle firing an intermediate cartridge (the 7.92x33 Kurz). Both Walther and Haenel made prototypes, with the Haenel version being accepted into service as the StG (SturmGewehr) 44 IN 1944.

It's just coincidence that the 2 rifles look somewhat similar.
 
The Vz.58/CZ-858 has a locking mechanism that is most like a Walther P38 or Beretta 92, except that is driven by a short-stroke gas piston rather than recoil. The SKS uses a tilting bolt like an SAFN-49, Tokarev SVT-40, or FN-FAL.

The fact that Hugo Schmeisser may have had some input into the design of the AK doesn't mean that the AK was descended from the StG-44, seeing as they have a fundamentally different locking mechanism.
 
VZ-58 is more similar to SKS than to AK
AK is more similar to SKS then to StG-44
AK is similar to StG-44 only with respect of the front sight and ability to take mags with more than 10 rounds, e.g. 30 rounds. It is totally different inside.
AK is more mechanically similar to Garant M1A rifle then to StG-44.

Test yourself. Close the front sight on AK and StG-44 and tell me how the hell they're similar?
 
Sks and VZ58 have almost nothing incommon! The ammo, the sights are close and the fact that there both short stroke pistons actions.

Thats about it!
 
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