SKS or Mosin Nagant?

[Eaglelord17]

I started with a SKS, but soon after got a M91/30. Personally I would rather have the Mosin Nagant. The SKS is just so boring to shoot, well the Mosin you can actually work towards being accurate (biggest thing is giving it quality ammo). People who say Mosin Nagants are inaccurate either don't know how to shoot (or at least shoot irons properly), are feeding it crap ammo, or have one with a crap bore.

This group was done with a Mosin Nagant at 100m with cheap surplus (I could do better with better ammo). You aren't going to ever be able to get a SKS to shoot like this.

 

[philhut]

Both SKS and a Mosin there both cheap guns and gives you versatility for both deer and moose hunting. Neither are the best I'm the world but there cheap and easy to maintain. Both an sks and mosin see easy to strip clean and rebuild. Mosin more so.
I own 3 SKS'S 4 Mosins 4 SVTS and 2 Mauser. All are nice and all shoot well not sure why some people dislike either.

 

[Claven2]

Sks is the most boring gun in X39 ever made.

Nope - not even close. At least it's mil spec, reliable, and easy to maintain.

Other contenders for "most boring":
-Mini-30
-Ruger M77
-Norinco JW103
-CZ527
-Zastava M85
-Savage 10FCM

 

[DILLIGAF]

^ LoL I should of been more specific. Most booring gun I won...lol... Cauz I dont own any of those listed... heheheheheheh

 

[Claven2]

Target shot yesterday. My first outing with a new-to-me M38. First 3 rounds of MFS 185gn ammo, open sights, 100m. The MFS ammo ain't exactly match quality with undersized .308" bullets and it was drizzling out so it was a bit hard to see the target. Still shot 1.5MOA.

Mosin all the way.

 

[sigrunes]

So are all the other X39 guns, well maybe not the Rasheed...lol... But the Cz858 is 100 times more fun, the Vz52/57 is a dream to shoot.

Never said the SKS wasnt reliable, Just said it was booring and there's plenty of better and more fun guns in X39

The cz858 is a lot more fun for sure , way better handling and ergos IMHO and it is a superior rifle. I usually take that and a sks out at the same time as its easy with them shooting the same ammo and all. Still enjoy shooting sks rifles though honestly , I also like that they are affordable and you can have 4 or 5 (or more) to choose from and shoot. I definitely don't have 4 or 5 cz858's lol.

 

[Gatehouse]

I started with a SKS, but soon after got a M91/30. Personally I would rather have the Mosin Nagant. The SKS is just so boring to shoot, well the Mosin you can actually work towards being accurate (biggest thing is giving it quality ammo). People who say Mosin Nagants are inaccurate either don't know how to shoot (or at least shoot irons properly), are feeding it crap ammo, or have one with a crap bore.

This group was done with a Mosin Nagant at 100m with cheap surplus (I could do better with better ammo). You aren't going to ever be able to get a SKS to shoot like this.

That's not even a good group for an SKS Laugh 2

SKS, with a scope 3 rounds. 100m

First 3 shots marked with X's, and shot a few more

Had a cheesy mount and a cobbled together ring/plastic shell defletor thing, too The new mounts that connect the rear of the reciever to the rear iron sight mount work even better.

Iron sights at 100 m. This is a different SKS though

 

[Claven2]

That's not even a good group for an SKS Laugh 2

SKS, with a scope 3 rounds. 100m

First 3 shots marked with X's, and shot a few more

You're comparing a target shot with a scope to issue iron targets? My target was shot prone, issue iron sights with the issue Mosin sling. No lead sled, sandbag or whatever. Yours?

 

[EL34/6L6]

Mosin. Learn a more simple action type first.

You'll be on to an SKS in no time after that.

 

[jeffQC1]

Damn, i lot of response.

I think i will go for a Mosin. I already know how to clean one (Friend of mine have both SKS and Mosin, i have fun shooting both). Maybe i will put a scope on it eventually, and amuse myself doing longer range shooting. Bolt action, so can't be simpler than that.

Eventually, i will buy both. But right now, i think i will stick to the Mosin and buy SKS later.

I have another question too: I heard that if you want to shoot on private property (My grand parents own a giant piece of forest and one of my cousins already go there to shoot with is rifle) you need a special permit. Since i don't hunt, i could still own the paperwork to shoot some cans in the woods, right?

 

[GunsNotPuns]

Funny to read this thread considering I'm selling off my SKS-45 and one of my M91/30s, neither of which get any use, to fund the purchase of another rifle.

SKSs and MNs are cheap gateway drugs into firearms but I can't imagine anyone continuing to spend a lot of time on them after awhile.

 

[jeffQC1]

One more thing: i have seen people replacing the stock wood frame into an archangel polymer body. I'm checking if anybody else have that kind of body, if its great or not, etc...

I already love the old style, but a tacticool Mosin could be nice, i think.

 

[GunsNotPuns]

I had a feeling...

 

[Mumbles Marble Mouth]

Accuracy to me is like working out at a public gym. I change the weight to maximum before I leave the machine so everyone else to uses it thinks I'm a beast. So when I shoot, It take one shot on paper and then send the rest in the dirt.

 

[fiddler]

I like both. SKS is good for shooting skills and is cheap to feed. Mosin ammo is also fairly cheap to feed, though not as much as SKS, but you can hunt with a Mosin and find good hunting rounds almost anywhere. The 7.62x54 ammo also feeds SVT40, M44 and M38. Some Mosin shoot better than others but its easy to reload for and anything I own in that caliber Shoots best with a .312 bullet. I keep all my rifles as issued and should not be a challenge to hit a deer with iron sights in the bush up to 150 yards. I take at least one deer every year with a Mosin.

 

[chadeech]

I f you only can get one the SKS but if you are able and want to save time buy both

 

[chadeech]

Funny to read this thread considering I'm selling off my SKS-45 and one of my M91/30s, neither of which get any use, to fund the purchase of another rifle.

SKSs and MNs are cheap gateway drugs into firearms but I can't imagine anyone continuing to spend a lot of time on them after awhile.

Wow i so disagree but to each their own i suppose if you only want a couple of firearms then no ....but if you can afford more than these should be in the stable

 

[highvelocityplaya]

VZ-58
SKS is for JIC

 

[Gatehouse]

You're comparing a target shot with a scope to issue iron targets? My target was shot prone, issue iron sights with the issue Mosin sling. No lead sled, sandbag or whatever. Yours?

I wasn't actually comparing your target, otherwise I would have quoted it. Yours seems good. The one I quoted with the "sks could never do this" was nothing special.

The last pic I put up was a Russian SKS, completely factory stock. All groups were fired from a tripod, and a rear sandbag. I don't have a lead sled.

When you shoot groups, the whole point is what the rifle is capable of. What the accuracy potential of a rifle is. If you take a modern bolt action .308 and use it with iron sights, you won't get as good a group as if you put a scope on it. Using a scope will let you know the true potential of a rifle is. I've put scopes on Lever rifles I never intended to use while scoped, just to work up loads. Even if you can't shoot MOA with iron sights with a lever gun, the rifle is often capable of it, which is why using a scope to work up loads makes lots of sense. Same if you want to see the true accuracy potential of an SKS barrel...

The failing of the SKS in regards to accuracy is primarily it's poor sights, secondly would be it's trigger. And some people find the stock too short. If you improve the sights, and learn to use the trigger, you are well on the way to good accuracy. Most people don't do this, and therefore the SKS is considered a Barn Door MOA rifle.

It's good to establish what your rifle is capable of. MostSKS rifles are more capable than their shooters, but most people just live with whatever accuracy their poor sights give them and have fun. Nothing wrong with that, BUT...... There are certainly some things that make it EASIER for a shooter, and good sights and trigger are possibly the most important.

I recently acquired an SKS with a HiCal mag adapter and a High Tech aperture sight. If I do my part, I can hit a 6" gong at 100m 10/10 offhand, using the issue sling. I think that's more than accurate enough for a "plinker" rifle that the OP is looking for, which is why I suggested the sight upgrade. I'm sure your Mosin is capable of better accuracy

 

[Claven2]

One more thing: i have seen people replacing the stock wood frame into an archangel polymer body. I'm checking if anybody else have that kind of body, if its great or not, etc...

I already love the old style, but a tacticool Mosin could be nice, i think.

Reading this, don't buy a Mosin. Go get a savage .308. Don't ruin a nice collectible milsurp with a craptastic plastic stock.