well then where did you get your main point ? so members can read it and decide own their own whether there is any risk.
i truly cant believe that a ban item can be simple declared differently and then be allowed in .
SKS Safety Lever Question
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well then where did you get your main point ? so members can read it and decide own their own whether there is any risk.
i truly cant believe that a ban item can be simple declared differently and then be allowed in .
start here , this thread is in the wrong forum but its new.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338057
then go to legalese forum and read all the stickies, one sticky has all the agencies's addresses and phone numbers involved .
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Here are the parts the ATF is worried about:
http://www.floridagunworks.com/ATF_Open_Letter_7_13_05.html
Here is the ATF Importation form. Read down to General information arcticle 9 b.
These parts are not worth over $100 dollars,nor are they a barrel,receiver/frame,cylinder,supressor etc. so no Import paperwork is needed. Even if they would be being purchased and not leaving the US.
http://arpin.accountsupport.com/PDF/US_ATF_F6.pdf
http://www.floridagunworks.com/ATF_Open_Letter_7_13_05.html
Here is the ATF Importation form. Read down to General information arcticle 9 b.
These parts are not worth over $100 dollars,nor are they a barrel,receiver/frame,cylinder,supressor etc. so no Import paperwork is needed. Even if they would be being purchased and not leaving the US.
http://arpin.accountsupport.com/PDF/US_ATF_F6.pdf
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On my newest Tula there was so much work required to true the slideerails, sear and hammer, and mostly hand fitting, that even charging what the guy in the US does would not cover the time spent on them.
Talking about soviet/russian quality of manufacture: it's garbage. Their designs are sound, materials are excellent but fit and finish of the parts leaves very much to be desired, to say the least.
On my russian shotguns I spent so much time fixing things that selling them would mean losing money. But metal working is a hobby as well as making a living so it is ok.
your site states (3) it is not a surplus military firearm. the last time i checked russian SKS is a surplus military firearm. also in this example it doesnt state trigger and hammer which are known as action parts as "significant parts" , other documents i read does.
however it seams brownells think so:
From Brownells Shipping Information, International
Gun Parts: Fees and Licenses
Many of our items are classified as Gun Parts. There are many strictly enforced rules that go along with these parts.
A Gun Part is “any item necessary to the operation of a weapon”. Many parts fall within this category, such as triggers, magazines, grips, actions, pistol frames, and barrels.
Shippers Export Declaration Fees (SED)
An SED is required for all gun part orders and export license orders.
Export License Fees
An Export License is required for all Gun Part orders exceeding $100 (U.S.). Export licenses are issued by the U.S. State Department and may take between 30 and 40 days to receive. An Export License is will be required for each order.
Orders requiring an Export License will be shipped BAX Global or Parcel Post. Neither UPS nor FedEx will deliver these orders. If you wish to use a different freight forwarder, please list them when you place your order. Freight forwarders, besides BAX Global and Parcel Post, require an initial set-up fee of $50 (U.S.).
All actions, barreled actions, pistol frames, barrels, barrel liners, and cylinders (even if their price is less than $100, will require a United States Export License.)
look , you trust your research then by all means go for it, im sure you will declare it as "russian SKS trigger group" . unless you are prepared to pay for other members legal cost who may or may not get in hot water over this then you should advised them to do their own research first. why take on the resposiblity?
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Did I not tell the OP to check with Kivaari in the begining? He is the one who decides if it is legal to do the job in the first place. If it was a problem he'd advise that he can or can not legally receive or re-ship the part. It's his Government that is the problem here not our's. All I'm doing is showing places to find the info that there are still things the border is not closed for. As for Brownells,well they sure ain't what they used to be. It's the internet who believes half of what they read anyways. Anyone who would take my or your opinion as gospel needs to do their own fact finding anyways.
If I was sending a trigger,I'd not send the original one myself.
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Ok so let me get this right? It's ok to take Brownell's as gospel,but not Kivaari? Both are providing a service to us up here and have to deal with the same problems.
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i have done my research and i believe brownells is right (with non-russian SKS TG). who knows whats going to be next month or next year with new admin in the US. thats why you need to do you own research in this changing scenery.
if i took kivaari advise and he is wrong and if i was caught then i would be in hot water and if i took brownells advise and they were wrong then all i'll be told i dont need a permit after all. nothing to do with gospel, no harm done, i rather be cautious.
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I got my trigger done by kivaari a couple of years ago and it was no problem. It wasn't even slowed down at all at the border in either direction. Maybe it is because I didn't BUY the trigger group, just sent it for repair so that it isn't counted as importing/exporting? It was declared on the customs slip both ways and was no problem for me. That's all I know. Maybe the laws have changed since then but personally, I don't think kivaari (Tom) would risk his business by breaking the law.
Anyways, my trigger was HORRIBLE before he worked on it. It was so gritty and had about a hundred pound pull LOL. (Ok not 100 lb but I could BARELY fire the darn thing it was so stiff...and it also had safety issues which he fixed too.)
The best solution would be if some Canadian gunsmiths started doing this though!
Anyways, my trigger was HORRIBLE before he worked on it. It was so gritty and had about a hundred pound pull LOL. (Ok not 100 lb but I could BARELY fire the darn thing it was so stiff...and it also had safety issues which he fixed too.)
The best solution would be if some Canadian gunsmiths started doing this though!
Polishing the sear won't do much; usually the sear/hammer contact is poor due to careless machining and that is what should be addressed, achieving contact on the whole surface; and this implies much more work than simply polishing the sear. Otherwise you won't have consistency and repeatability in releasing the hammer when you pull the trigger.
Here's some pics to show what I mean.
Full contact marks on the sear end; I also ground and lapped a 5° angle on the sear for a positive engagement with the hammer:
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Russian SKS
The one that you should look for is 1951 and up. All earlier productions are a bit different. Those 1951and up I think would be better rifle for your needs. If you have any questions let me know. I met with Russia gunsmiths who still work with SKS and know what is the differences
The one that you should look for is 1951 and up. All earlier productions are a bit different. Those 1951and up I think would be better rifle for your needs. If you have any questions let me know. I met with Russia gunsmiths who still work with SKS and know what is the differences
I have an unissued russian 1953 and the safety is not spring loaded.
Yes, back to the original question...
My 1953 Tula refurb definitely has no palpable "sproing" in the safety movement. I will wait until my eyes are fully open, and I have dealt with my car's exploded p/s pump this morning, then I will have to see if I am missing any parts. The movement of my safety is analogous to shoving a box car down the rails, with the brake partially on... I mean, it moves, with effort, smoothly.
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My 1953 Tula refurb definitely has no palpable "sproing" in the safety movement. I will wait until my eyes are fully open, and I have dealt with my car's exploded p/s pump this morning, then I will have to see if I am missing any parts. The movement of my safety is analogous to shoving a box car down the rails, with the brake partially on... I mean, it moves, with effort, smoothly.
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