SKS Shooters "Clean up your Act"

Sounds like time to move that range out to better location. Eventually, no guns will be allowed if the neighbours know they need only make a call and have you shut down. Are you saying that rapid firing is scaring the neighbours? Do you not have pistol or Service Rifle events there? 20 people all shooting 10rd pistols can sound like machine guns. They have many rapid and timed events. Is your range just for high powered rifles then? Loud noise is OK, just not fast firing.
OK, it's your range ,your rules.
 
Donnie said:
It's not the lack of means to clean it up, God gave most of us two working hands after all. It's the willingness to do it that appears to be lacking.
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I guess once people pay for it they believe they have to be served, if i was shooting at someones farm or person range for free, then i would definitely clean up after myself, I think thats the problem with people once they pay $$ they don't feel like they owe anything more
 
JEC said:
Sorry for my misinterpretation of "bump fire"..it was the term used by the CFO Range inspector when he dug out some of the divots that were strung out from no more than 10M from the firing line..in a string towards the 100M backstop. My labeling error doesn't change the idiocity of the act.
Another bit of advice for the folks who think that pissing people off that won't look them in the eye should know that some old codgers have held black belts in Martial arts for longer than they been annoying people....a staring contest does't make you either tough or even scary! Give your head a shake...you want to get in a "tiff" at the Range when you have a gun in your hand. One complaint to the RCMP and you'll be lucky to keep your PAL.
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LOL at bump firing being idiocy. i have the muzzle safely pointed downrange the entire time and do not 'walk it up' to the target like you stated. you are projecting your own/others shortcomings onto me. im on target for all five rounds.


i never said anything about a staring contest or getting into 'tiffs' at the range. do not twist my words any try to imply that i have done this. weak sauce.

i dont street fight people that collect pension cheques, regardless of their dusty old blackbelts, although i devoted a good portion of my own life to martial arts and worked as a doorman at a notoriously rough bar for a while, disputes arent settled with fists anymore.
 
Claybuster said:
Not in this case. The neighbours had been there for a while, knew there was a club and everyone co-existed until the volume and intensity of fire from the range increased markedly. There were complaints and when they were investigated large quantities of fresh 7.62x39 casings were found on the line and down range. The casings down range was of specific concern because the posted rules and range approvals require firing from the line during normal operations.

Attempts to solve the problem without imposing new rules were unsuccessful. Now because a few clowns who couldn't conduct themselves sensibly or according to the range regulations the entire membership suffers.
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what range was this??!
 
JEC;43"09072 said:
No reason for anybody to get huffy about their "right to litter" because it doesn't exist! The main point of my OP was to provide a gentle warning to the "irresponsible" SKS shooters, that their conduct could screw it up for others if they are not carefull. Right or wrong, the fact is that the majority of long gun shooters don't like "assault rifles" of any genre and it is easy to target the SKS because of the mess some of those shooters leave
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I agree about the litter but the vast majority of long gun shooters at my range ARE firing what you call "assault rifles". In fact, most of the shotguns fired there are "tactical" shotguns rather than skeet or trap guns. I prefer to shoot with guys firing .223, .308 or 7.62x39 because it isn't as hard on my ears as the guys firing .300 magnums and up...

Don't let the antis divide and conquer... Fudds and mall ninjas have more in common than Fudds and Wendy... I think.:confused:



Jeff
 
Thanks to all who participated in this thread. I have to confess, that once a year I raise the "pick up your brass" issue and after a brief "airing" ...things seem to improve at the range. Probably, some folks who read the enivitable "exchanges" talk to others and make an effort to reduce the problem. This year was quite interesting in that it did not skid sideways towards the "they are trying to ban my gun"..... Thanks again! And remember, whatever you shoot....if you leave the place cleaner than when you came...they will always invite you back.
 
Hmm... do you guys believe that in the case of those ranges
whose neighbours complain of loud noise, rapid fire, yada, yada...
would the number of complaints decrease
if the club stops the range rental to
police agencies, ert, fish-cops, border agencies, etc?????
What do you think?
 
Those are pretty lame rues! no FMJ or shooting alone?? :eek: I'm glad I didn't join Galt a couple of years ago when I moved to the area. It's a nice range thro. not cheap either - IIRC over $400 for the first year!
 
This thread is rediculous. If you can't get people to clean up at the range then put in cameras, find out who they are and void their membership.

#### rules and garbage from the good old boys club is the reason why I won't join the local range in my area (POSC).

Also, if you bow down to noise complaints from a bunch of people who know that they bought property next to a rifle range you will be a huge component of the dismantling of our sport.
 
If it was brass it would get cleaned up by some scrounger..

Those people who say it's someone else's job believe they can litter whereever they want.. It is litter its not reusable/resaleable hence the reason you don't want it...

So much for conservationists...

Your probably the same twits that spray paint the shooting benches.. piss in the corner of the target shed and leave your cigarette butt everywhere.. After all it's someone elses job.. You pay that $200 bucks a year for someone else to be your maid.. (someone on the cleanup crew that you never volunteer for...)
 
Agreed, every time I go to the range, I make an effort to pick up as many empties as I shoot (as well as my own). I put my cigarette butts in the gash after making sure they're out. You wouldn't believe how many people put live ammunition (dropped .22s mostly) in the garbage, so please don't throw your smokes in the garbage before thoroughly butting them - even if it is mostly full of brass.
 
Claybuster said:
Nothing. However, bump firing and the like are less appealing with with full price factory soft point.
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Nothing is wrong with FMJ and you banned it anyway as a method of behaviour modification. Did you ban FMJ .30-06 and .306 and .223? I really doubt it.

Must be a fun club.
 
I'm gonna have to find a club near Pet that isn't run by the "old boy Skeet Club". I'd like to be able to practice my job skills (as much is legal)......
 
I can't beleive a range would have a restriction on how fast you can shoot. Tha't's sound like a Rule David Miller would make. There are days that I shoot slow for accuracy and some other days I just want to go and empty my mag as fast as I can. Who is anyone to tell me how fast i should shoot. just shut up and mind your own buisness. usually the person who is telling you to shoot slow is the same guy who honks his horn at you when you are passing by, trying to tell you to slow down, people like this usually end up getting my middle finger Please I don't tell you what to do, so please dont tell me what to do
 
Stevo said:
Nothing is wrong with FMJ and you banned it anyway as a method of behaviour modification. Did you ban FMJ .30-06 and .306 and .223? I really doubt it.

Must be a fun club.
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I haven't banned anything as I'm not a member of the section executive. The executive of the range has banned all FMJ including the calibres you mentioned.
 
Hmm interesting thread. I prefer my public range. Its dirty, its shot up and its a little ghetto, but I like it. I can go, teach others to shoot, pick up hordes of reloadable brass, no anti-s telling me to "slow my fire", I can shoot surplus ammo etc.

The downside is that the public range in my area ranges from slightly disorganized to extremely filthy.

Banning a particular rifle, because you saw the steel case it may have fired, is like banning dogs because some of them bite. Its about the OWNERS. Not the rifles.

As for the neighborly noise complaints, the range owners should use their profits to invest in some extra sound barriers perhaps?
 
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