SKS to AR mag adapter prototype

hical.ca said:
Wow, enough rumors & speculations. We did not want to get into arguments on a public forum, but we want to explain the difference between our product & the USA one.
There has to be some similarities to make them work in an SKS rifle, but this is what we found by comparing the different units when we did a side by side comparison between our mag adapter and the one from the states over the weekend.

Here is a list of the main differences:

ours is longer to provide better magazine support
ours has a mag well flare for faster mag changes
ours has a larger mag release button for easier mag changes
ours has a slightly lower location for the mag release button
ours has a different mag catch arm with different geometry so it can't bind, this is a problem with the USA design
if the magazine does get stuck, our design facilitates reaching inside to manually depress the mag catch

you cannot push the mag release button too far allowing the mag catch to fall out of position, this is a problem with the USA design
Less modification required to the sks stock is required as ours is thinner profile.

the USA designs website clearly states "It is designed to use only ASC, 5, 10, 20 or 30 round, modified 7.62x39 AR 15 style magazines"
Our design was designed to work with any ar 15 style magazine from any manufacturer, no modification are required. Our system will work with any standard unmodified magazine designed for that specific caliber, including 10 round pistol mags, with NO modification!

the USA design does not need a modification to the sks rifle, ours does require some material to be removed from the lower receiver

We understand that our design looks similar to the USA design, but this is just a prototype as explained in the original post. There are several areas that interface with the rifle and magazine thus the dimensions are restricted. We will still make changes to further enhance, improve and set our design apart from the USA design.

Ours says "made in Canada" not "made in Texas"....

Thank you for the positive response to our design that is 100% made, manufactured and distributed in Canada. 100% of the money goes to Canadians!

Thank you for your support! Dave.
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Sweet , cause this is an annoying thing with mine.

How long till you figure to market ?
 
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I went by hical today and took a look at the prototype. Here's a few notes:

The machining is excellent. The prototype is solid and machined well
While I didn't see it installed on a complete rifle, I saw it attached to a complete action, and it is on there really solid. Attachment points are solid, and design is clever.
Saw a modified bolt, mags drop free with ease, and modifications also ensure the bolt doesn't shear the reed lips off the mags
Another note is that the baseplate on the XCR mags seem like they have the same dimensions as the LAR mags, so magpul ranger plates should fit on them (don't quote me on this, I only eyeballed it)
According to Dave, final versions will have a cutout to make it easier to grip our shorter XCR pistol mags

I also compared this to a G9A and I can tell you that while it looks similar, it's pretty different.
- magwell is flared unlike the GA9
- mag release mechanism is a different design to allow mags to secure and drop better and prevent binding
- rifle attachment mechanism is a little different shape, for a better attachment to the action using the factory mag release and trigger group
- magwell looked a bit deeper
- final version will have a cutout for gripping our shorter mags better

I personally don't see any legal nor ethical issues with the development this product. It's clearly an evolution of the G9/A, with improved features. The bottom line is, there's very designs that allow attachment of an adapter to the SKS action. If our society didn't allow us to evolve and produce improved products, we'd all still be using 32" televisions made by Magnavox. These will be Canadian products, produced by Canadians for Canadians. This is evident with the Canada centric features like planned cutout for our tiny stinkin mags.

Hical, make the thing so I can buy it already!!
 
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This will sound like an astonishingly stupid question, but please bear with it. It obviously won't feed correctly, but will a 5.56 mag fit and index semi-correctly with this adapter? I'm aware it's idiotic to attempt to feed 5.56 in a 7.62 SKS, but I have a ridiculous side-project which would be made considerably with the ability to fit an AR-pattern mag. I'm open to doing mods to both the adapter and mags if necessary to make it fit up better. Thanks for your help, and please consider this post heavily in support of the project.
 
Darkpr0 said:
This will sound like an astonishingly stupid question, but please bear with it. It obviously won't feed correctly, but will a 5.56 mag fit and index semi-correctly with this adapter? I'm aware it's idiotic to attempt to feed 5.56 in a 7.62 SKS, but I have a ridiculous side-project which would be made considerably with the ability to fit an AR-pattern mag. I'm open to doing mods to both the adapter and mags if necessary to make it fit up better. Thanks for your help, and please consider this post heavily in support of the project.
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Yes, the will work with any AR style mag.
 
Ive contacted Hical about mine.

Have to say that they have been helpful and informative,looking forward to getting my Chino SKS fitted with one of these and fitting a wartak rail and scope.
 
We just wanted to post that we had a phone conversation with Marcus, from the US SKS mag adapter & resolved any issues that have been ongoing here on the forums. He is a very reasonable fellow to talk with. We have agreed to alter the final version so it does not resemble his version as much. We will alter our prototype & start production. Thanks for everyones support & understanding, especially Marcus! Dave.
 
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hical.ca said:
We just wanted to post that we had a phone conversation with Marcus, from the US SKS mag adapter & resolved any issues that have been ongoing here on the forums. He is a very reasonable fellow to talk with. We have agreed to alter the final version so it does not resemble his version as much. We will alter our prototype & start production. Thanks for everyones support & understanding, especially Marcus! Dave.
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Right on!
 
hical.ca said:
We just wanted to post that we had a phone conversation with Marcus, from the US SKS mag adapter & resolved any issues that have been ongoing here on the forums. He is a very reasonable fellow to talk with. We have agreed to alter the final version so it does not resemble his version as much. We will alter our prototype & start production. Thanks for everyones support & understanding, especially Marcus! Dave.
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That is professionalism.
Good stuff !
 
What kind of alteration will be made to the adapter can you tell us yet?
Also will this affect the timescale for production at all?

Thanks.
 
Dave, good talking with you today. I appreciate your honesty and being forthright with me. We wish you guys the best and hope you sell a ton of your AR to SKS adapters, using XCR, LAR unmodified mags !!! For us in the USA, it's easier (and less costly) to modify the mags to work than modify the rifle. BTW, if any of our Canadian friends happen to own a AR 15 with a x39 upper, the mags ARE interchangeable. That was one of the hurdles we had to successfully resolve.

Dave, if you ever make this far south, stop by for a rare to medium rare fillet or rib-eye, bacon wrapped scallops or lobster tail, some really cold beer and a loaded baked potato.

Best,
Marcus

Now, how do I get rid of the infractions. They weren't intentional.
 
What's wrong with the mag the sks already has when you buy it. ? And why is this better? It doesn't matter what the mag looks like, or how cool it is. They all still have to be a max 5 rounds. Which brings me back to my first question.
 
1mlt said:
Dave, good talking with you today. I appreciate your honesty and being forthright with me. We wish you guys the best and hope you sell a ton of your AR to SKS adapters, using XCR, LAR unmodified mags !!! For us in the USA, it's easier (and less costly) to modify the mags to work than modify the rifle. BTW, if any of our Canadian friends happen to own a AR 15 with a x39 upper, the mags ARE interchangeable. That was one of the hurdles we had to successfully resolve.

Dave, if you ever make this far south, stop by for a rare to medium rare fillet or rib-eye, bacon wrapped scallops or lobster tail, some really cold beer and a loaded baked potato.

Best,
Marcus

Now, how do I get rid of the infractions. They weren't intentional.
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Glad to see you guys are getting along :)
I dunno if you can get rid of them any way except for them to expire .
perhaps talk to admin ?


Btw i have one of your adaptors....
I blame you for me going thru so much stinkin ammo lol
 
awinchester85 said:
What's wrong with the mag the sks already has when you buy it. ? And why is this better? It doesn't matter what the mag looks like, or how cool it is. They all still have to be a max 5 rounds. Which brings me back to my first question.
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Wrong ;)

The rifle is not regulated , The mag is...
in this case you will remove the factory mag and use a detachable pistol mag.
That just happens to work , And is legal with 10 rounds of the ammo it was designed to hold.
Hope that helps
 
skneub said:
Glad to see you guys are getting along :)
I dunno if you can get rid of them any way except for them to expire .
perhaps talk to admin ?


Btw i have one of your adaptors....
I blame you for me going thru so much stinkin ammo lol
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LOL, see guys, our design really does work. I hope HiCal can get their design to work as well as our does. Thanks for the 'good press'.

Marcus
 
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