SKS to FAL conversion, MK1 (56k warning)

Dimitri said:
Magazine restrictions are based on what the magazine was designed te be used for not used in. Hence why 10 round AR Pistol mags are ok in rifles. So if bolt action magazine then should be unlimited how I see it.

Dimitri
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Hmm, interesting. Except the AR pistol mags are designated to be ok in a semi auto for 10 rds and were made for that purpose. The bolt action mags were exempt because they were for bolt actions (like the rimfire mag rules). Otherwise I would be able to take a tube mag from a lever action and put it into a tube mag semi auto.. However, if they ruled in your favour, enfield mags would be fun!

Give them a call, record it, and find out!

P.S. - I know guys with machine shops and gun smithing experience are out there - I know you guys can figure the FAL FTF problem out!
 
The thing is they have it in Law about Enfield magazines.

The law states what it was designed for not used in so I cant see a legal problem. Its more of a "if I design it that way I don't want to step on any ones toes" then anything.

AR15 pistol magazines are limited to 10 for semi-auto pistols
Carbines that take pistol mags if marked for the pistol is ok at 10 if marked for the carbine has to be 5.

Dimitri
 
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H Wally said:
Hmm, interesting. Except the AR pistol mags are designated to be ok in a semi auto for 10 rds and were made for that purpose. The bolt action mags were exempt because they were for bolt actions (like the rimfire mag rules). Otherwise I would be able to take a tube mag from a lever action and put it into a tube mag semi auto.. However, if they ruled in your favour, enfield mags would be fun!

Give them a call, record it, and find out!

P.S. - I know guys with machine shops and gun smithing experience are out there - I know you guys can figure the FAL FTF problem out!
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The AIA No. 4 Mk. IV's use a 10 round .308 mag that happens to fit the M14 as well. It's been mentioned in a few threads, just without the exposure and marketing push the pistol mags have received.
 
chanman said:
The AIA No. 4 Mk. IV's use a 10 round .308 mag that happens to fit the M14 as well. It's been mentioned in a few threads, just without the exposure and marketing push the pistol mags have received.
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hows that going btw?

i heard its not alowed and if you get caught your in deep ####, but i havent asked the cfc on this, has anyone?:confused:
 
paulz said:
Cool! Now I know why you kept asking for pics / deacts. Excellent "outside the box" thinking! I like it! Pity there isn't an easy way to make it "more" FAL (ie: 7.62x51).
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Any reason this couldn't be done with a Norc M14S upper instead? (aside from their limited availability and not wanting to destroy one)
 
Having a thought here, perhaps your problem has to do with the distance the piston travels before it vents. the SKS piston will not travel far enough back to fully #### the hammer so the energy it has transfered to the bolt may not be enough to complete the action of reloading.

I have to look at an SKS and give it some thought. But as I recall the piston on the FN had a much longer stroke.
 
BBq_Woa! said:
please be careful Wally. I love you.
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Thanks muffin - I'll do my best:adult:

phatns2pid said:
Any reason this couldn't be done with a Norc M14S upper instead? (aside from their limited availability and not wanting to destroy one)
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Looked at that - I was looking for something with a gas system that operated above the barrel. Plus it was far more expensive and it's layout was a bit more spaced out (would have made it harder to get the correct profile).

woodchopper said:
Having a thought here, perhaps your problem has to do with the distance the piston travels before it vents. the SKS piston will not travel far enough back to fully #### the hammer so the energy it has transfered to the bolt may not be enough to complete the action of reloading.

I have to look at an SKS and give it some thought. But as I recall the piston on the FN had a much longer stroke.
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Once the gun has fired it cycles, reloads, and cocks the hammer quite well. The problem is that when the hammer falls it doesn't have the force to fire the primer... I'm going to get my hands on some commercial ammo and see what I can do (might work just fine with commercial, but not function on the thick primer surplus). I may have to strip it down and reweld all the brackets to give the hammer some extra room to work.

adrock said:
That looks great, keep up the postings.
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When I get more work done on it I definitely will.... downside is that I've headed back to real life, and that means no tools or shop space for the next 8 months at least. If I'm busy next summer, then it's on hold for the next 20 months:(

That means I want to see some of you guys experimenting too!!!! All of you with shop space at your fingertips, use it!!
 
Once the gun has fired it cycles, reloads, and cocks the hammer quite well. The problem is that when the hammer falls it doesn't have the force to fire the primer... I'm going to get my hands on some commercial ammo and see what I can do (might work just fine with commercial, but not function on the thick primer surplus). I may have to strip it down and reweld all the brackets to give the hammer some extra room to work.
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add weight to the hammer ??
 
woodchopper said:
add weight to the hammer ??
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Tried that - I actually went so far as to put in an original FAL hammer (won't fit once the bolt mainspring is in) to eliminate an error caused by alteration. Added mass helped, but not reliably. With the SKS upper there isn't a heck of a lot of room to add weight to the hammer. Plus I don't have a machine shop, so I'm limited by the fact that I have to build up the mass with a welder, and that I only have two hammers to work with if I screw up. For the time being I'm going to see if I can get it to work with the commercial stuff. If the commercial works, then I know I need to hit the surplus primers harder. If the commercial doesn't work, then I know there's a bigger problem than what I'm trying to solve.
 
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