SKS Vs. Cz858?

[Curtton]

Is this like saying the CF still uses the Lee Enfield in 2007?

FYI, RCMP troops used LE 303 for training at their depot.

you would be closer if you said canadian rangers, they are still issued with LE.

"The Canadian Rangers are part-time reservists who provide a military presence in remote, isolated and coastal communities of Canada. Formally established in 1947, Canadian Rangers are responsible for protecting Canada’s sovereignty by reporting unusual activities or sightings, collecting local data of significance to the Canadian Forces, and conducting surveillance or sovereignty patrols as required.

Mandate – Canadian Rangers
Canadian Rangers provide a military presence in those sparsely settled northern, coastal and isolated areas of Canada that cannot conveniently or economically be provided for by other components of the Canadian Forces.

Tasks - Canadian Rangers
The tasks assigned to the Rangers include providing a military presence in support of sovereignty . "

 

[rollingrock]

Agreed that China always had a excellent weapons program, I have to wonder how efficient their logistical supporting arms were. The Romans never had the equivalent manpower to call upon. However the Roman strength was in the professionalism of it’s legions. The Chinese military seem to be able to mass large quantities of men but it appears to me that they were not meshed as tightly as the Romans. I think also the Romans had to be more adaptive the Chinese as they could never bring as many men to bear at one time. Chinese had more access to cavalry which was a Roman weakness. Again though it appears that Chinese Cavalry never gained the cohesion that European Cavalry attained. However the main failing that China had which cost it most of the late 18th century, the 19th and most of the 20th century was the lack of an effective navy. This was a trait that almost cost Rome as well and it was the Carthage wars that forced them to build a capable navy.

France had nothing to be ashamed about regarding the Napoleonic wars other than biting off more than they could chew. France biggest problem was not being able to train an effective navy even though their ships were generally better designed than the English.

Finland survived mainly because it was off the main invasion routes, Czech is right in the middle of some very dramatic historical events.

I still think using your opinions of historical events to choose a modern firearm rather odd. Considering most firearms share some connection as most of the major designers ended up working for the great designers.

Mind you I look forward to you explaining to me how the event in 1805 effected the development of polymer use in firearms.

Wow! That's gonna be a fun topic. Wish I had time to do it tonite. Well tell me the event in 1805, I really don't know what that was.

Talk ya later!

 

[dangertree]

Dude, I really appreciate what you think, but do not tell me what was used in the Soviet Army in 80-s. I have served there that time. Just so you know - missile air defence forces (ground to air missiles)were armed with SKS (that is where friend of mine served). Some NAVY personal too. Not for parades/drills. As a service rifle. This is in 80ies, while the majority of the army was on different modifications of AK. I am personally was issued an AKM. I know people who served with AK-74S. Some with AKSU. Some with AK-74. Some with SKS.

cheers

No offence intended at all.

I appreciate the knowledge and stand corrected.

For what it's worth, the first first hand accounts about the AK74 I had was with a former Ballistic Missile guy from Kazakhstan, mid-80's service!

I'm not surprised to hear that the SKS survived in the USSR supply chain for a long long long time.

My VZ is still a better carbine than my SKS though!

you would be closer if you said canadian rangers, they are still issued with LE.

That's who I meant. They're still CF no?

 

[Calum]

As a parade/drill rifle? If so, they still do!

In the mid-80's the USSR was using the AK74, I can't imagine that any combat arms units were using the SKS as general issue in the USSR in the mid-80s.

Is this like saying the CF still uses the Lee Enfield in 2007?

The Rangers do!

 

[Colin]

Wow! That's gonna be a fun topic. Wish I had time to do it tonite. Well tell me the event in 1805, I really don't know what that was.

Talk ya later!

That’s when Napoleon decisively beat the Austrian armies, hence leading them to develop the Glock……

Not to mention some little wanker with his knickers on to tight and a silly moustache

 

[stokka]

No offence intended at all.

I appreciate the knowledge and stand corrected.

For what it's worth, the first first hand accounts about the AK74 I had was with a former Ballistic Missile guy from Kazakhstan, mid-80's service!

I'm not surprised to hear that the SKS survived in the USSR supply chain for a long long long time.

My VZ is still a better carbine than my SKS though!



That's who I meant. They're still CF no?

None taken. You anyway know about Soviet weapons more then I know about Nato weapons, and you have never lived in USSR

As for VZ - as I said it is an excellent rifle and I am really debating with myself if I want to get one.. It is just hard to justify third rifle of the same caliber/type. Especially when I am trying to save for an AR

 

[hugehodge83]

CZ for sure... knocks everything else out fo the park