SL8 Optics?

yea it is for now. I've been looking at falcon optics, the DMS 1.5-5x32 looks nice, has a nice price, and has good reviews here on CGN, if HUNGRY says its good its good.

but im still open to others for sure, I want to get the best thing I can find.
 
Yup, I have the dual optic as my main optic on the gun. What do you want to know.

I guess just is it generally clear and good to use for action shooting (i mean the 3x sight)? How is the reticle on it for shooting at greater distances as well? just wondering because it is a good contender for my action shooting optic I want to get for it. if it could double as an optic for coyote hunting up to 300m that would be good too but thats asking alot.
 
I guess just is it generally clear and good to use for action shooting (i mean the 3x sight)? How is the reticle on it for shooting at greater distances as well? just wondering because it is a good contender for my action shooting optic I want to get for it. if it could double as an optic for coyote hunting up to 300m that would be good too but thats asking alot.

The scope is pretty decent, great for 50 meters an over, FOV is a little narrow, but it has a good reticle. Gotten groups at 300m of under 6" with the scope. Glass quality is pretty decent.

As for the red dot (no zoom), it gets the job done, but again, FOV is too small.

If the purpose is just action rifle where the shooting is usually under 50 meters, you are better off with a different optic (Eotech, Aimpoint, etc.), but if is for general purpose, it is a good combo optic to have.
 
im unfamiliar with "tracking problems" could you enlighten me zupermann?

thanks.

What I mean by "tracking problems" is that the windage and elevation adjustments weren't at all consistent--nor did they "hold". It was maddening trying to get that piece zeroed. You'd make an adjustment that should translate to, say an moa at a given distance, and the impact would move 3-4 times that; and vica-versa. Many rounds later, I sent it off to be checked and they verified that it was defective.

If memory serves me correctly, Greentips made a similar observation in a long ago thread. I wonder if at the time, a "bad lot" was manufactured and released.
After all, no one would dare question HK quality, would they?

I really like the concept/layout of the sight. It just didn't work. I don't wanna go through all that hassle again.:)
 
Zupermann, when you received your dual optic, did it comes with any instructions, mounting bolts/hardware?

thanks

Mine was part of a purchase (consignment) in which the sight unit was already installed on an SL-8. So yes, all the mounting stuff was already on the unit. I believe the mounting screws are the same as on the HK factory rail units that usually come with those rifles.

My SL-8 owner's manual had a section in the back covering "optional sight units" which helped with adjustments etc., but it wasn't totally inclusive. I supplemented the info with an article I saw in "The Gun Digest Book of Assault Weapons (5th Edition)".

Be careful of Airsoft reproductions. I'm sure they're out there.
 
I believe the mounting screws are the same as on the HK factory rail units that usually come with those rifles.

The two rear mounting screws are the same, but the front one is actually slightly longer.

If you buy the optic, it should come with all the hardware you need to mount it though (but it probably wouldn't hurt to ask and be sure).
 
Thanks Zupermann and AJCrowley, for the info

I got the Dual Optic from a reputable HK authorized Canadian dealer and it did not come with any mounting bolts or instructions, question for you, do you happen to know what the following item is (circled in red on both pics)?

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Found the installation and adjustment info online, posted below to share with all.

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Sight Installation

HECKLER & KOCH, INC
21480 PACIFIC BOULEVARD
STERLING, VIRGINIA 20166-8903 USA
WARNING
Clear the Rifle!
To install the Dual Sighting System on the G36 or SL8-1, first "clear" the rifle by placing the safety/selector lever in the safe position, removing the magazine from the rifle, locking the bolt rearward and inspecting the chamber for the presence of a cartridge or empty case.

1. Once the rifle is "clear" use a Phillips head screwdriver or the HK Multi-tool supplied with each SL8-1, to loosen and remove the three mounting screws that hold the standard sight in place.

2. Pull the standard sight rearward off of the receiver of the rifle.

3. Slide the Dual Sighting System over the rear end of the receiver dovetail and push it forward into place on the rifle. Insure that the front extension of the carrying handle fits over the front mounting pedestal located on the rifle forward of the cocking lever.

4. Once fully seated, reinstall the three locking screws to secure the sight to the rifle.

NOTE

The longest of the three screws received with the Dual Sighting System (1 1/2 inches in length) goes in the front end of the carrying handle. The two shorter screws (1 3/16 inches in length) are installed in the holes provided in the rear of the carrying handle under the optical sight.

When inserting the screw place one unthreaded washer under the head of the each screw. Insert the screws in the rifle from left to right. Install the threaded nuts on the end of the screws visible from the right side of the carrying handle. Hand tighten the screws using a Phillips head screwdriver or the HK SL8-1 Multi-tool. If using a torque screwdriver to tighten the screws set the torque setting to 250 NCM (22.5 inch pounds).

5. After mounting zero or reconfirm the zero of the sight(s) by following the directions provided in the operators manual for the rifle. Unless the proper torque setting is used when the sight is remounted there may be minor zero changes after remounting.

Use of the Dual Sighting System
Optical Sight
The use and adjustment of the Optical Sight, to include the features and function of the unique reticule pattern provided within the sight, is explained in the operator’s manual for the rifle.


Electronic Red Dot Reflex Sight
The red dot within the upper sight of the dual sighting system is powered by ambient light through a solar collector or by means of a battery contained within the sight. During normal daylight conditions with the solar collector shade on top of the dual sight open (slide forward) the solar collector will illuminate the red dot as long as sufficient ambient light is available to do so. The dot will glow brighter in stronger outdoor sunlight than it will indoors or under artificial light. For periods when very little ambient light is available or when the shooters prefers a brighter red dot, the battery back up can be switched on.



Turning the Red Dot Sight On and Off

The on/off switch for the red dot sight is located on the right rear end of the dual sighting system. Rotating this switch COUNTERCLOCKWISE will turn the sight ON (when the white line aligns with the white dot), CLOCKWISE will shut the sight OFF (when the white "0" aligns with the white dot - remember "0" means "off').

The red dot cannot be adjusted for brightness or size nor are there intermediate positions within the rotary on/off switch. The relatively large red dot is designed primarily for quick instinctual aiming and not finite precision. For precision engagements of small or distant targets the fine reticule within the optical sight of the Dual Sighting System should be used.

If desired the shade of the solar collector can be closed to hide the glow of the battery- illuminated collector during periods of darkness.

Changing the Red Dot Sight Battery

The Red Dot Sight uses only a single 3.6-volt size AA Lithium Battery. One manufacturers model number for this battery is SL- 760. It is available at many local stores, from Radio Shack or from HK directly under ID# 986444.

NOTE

Do not attempt to use other types of batteries in the red dot sight other than that specified above or poor performance or damage to the sight may occur and is not covered under warranty.


To remove the battery, locate the battery compartment positioned to the left of the red dot sight opposite the on/off switch. Use a coin inserted within the slotted cover to rotate the battery compartment 1/8th turn counterclockwise. The battery compartment can then be pulled out only far enough to remove and install the battery. DO NOT attempt to completely remove the battery compartment. The correct orientation for the battery is noted within the battery compartment. To close the battery compartment push in on and rotate the slotted cover 1/8th clockwise until secure.

Dual Sighting System Maintenance

If the red dot fails to illuminate when the battery on/off switch is turned on or the red dot flickers or is hard to see, try exchanging the battery with a fresh one. If this fails to improve matters clean the battery contacts within the battery compartment using a cotton swab and rubbing alcohol. If problems persist, contact your unit armory, your HK dealer or Heckler & Koch.

DO NOT attempt to disassemble the Dual Sighting System for any reason. The solar collector and red dot and optical sight lens should be cleaned with lens cleaning tissues only to avoid scratching the lens.

DO NOT immerse the Dual Sighting System in cleaning solvent as damage to the sights lens and rubber and electronic components may occur and is not covered under warranty.

Zeroing

Due to the unique design of the Dual Sighting System both sights can be independently zeroed for the same or different ranges. For instance a hunter might prefer a long range zero (200 meters) for the optical sight for longer shots and a 50 meter zero for closer shots on moving targets or when the lighting conditions worsen.


The standard factory zero for rifles equipped with the Dual Sighting System is a 200 meter (219 yard) zero. Once established the 200 meter zero will insure that the aiming points provided within the Optical Sight reticle will correspond to the targets fired at longer distances when using 55 or 62 grain ammunition (results may vary with different types and brands of ammunition). The Red Dot Sight can also be adjusted using the same 200-meter zeroing procedure described below.

Zeroing Procedure

The intersection of the Optical Sight crosshairs within the thick black aiming circle, or the red dot of the reflex sight, should be used for zeroing.


1. With a target placed 25 meters (27.5 yards) from the firing position, adjust the impact of the rounds on target until the center of a good 3-shot group passes through the target 1 31. inches (45 mm) low of the point of aim. This will provide a 200 meter zero without the need to fire on or have access to a 200-meter range.

2. Consult the applicable operators manual for the rifle being fired for the method, direction of movement and degree of adjustment for the Optical Sight, which are also the same for both sights within the Dual Sighting System.

3. Use the 2.5 mm Allen wrench contained within the HK SL8-1 Multi-tool to make windage and elevation adjustments.
 
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That screw might be for removing the red dot from the 3x tube. You can remove the red dot and install a rail instead and then use an Aimpoint Micro instead.

I run with a 3x single optic, with a rail on top and an EOTech, but when I get my hands on a Zeiss Z-Point the EOTech will be replaced with the Z-Point.
 
That screw might be for removing the red dot from the 3x tube. You can remove the red dot and install a rail instead and then use an Aimpoint Micro instead.

It's not a screw, it looks like a tiny clear light bulb (with no filament), it does not light up with the red dot switched on. You brought up a good point though, how does the red dot sight get removed from on top of the 3x optic.
 
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