Slicking up a Marlin 1894 - Updated

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I picked up a sweet Marlin 1894 (current production batch) from a great CGNer recently. It had an almost broken in feel to it ie kinda smooth but a little "clunky" and gritty feel to some parts when cycling the action.

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I figured I'd make it into a project gun and started slicking it up last weekend.

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I did a full disassemble (other than remove mag tube and barrel from receiver) and began deburring all the parts.

- Polished the locking block
- Deburred finger lever, remove tooling marks, polished and reblued
- Deburred and reblued trigger guard plate
- Polished carrier
- Deburred, polished and reblued ejector arm
- Polished screw stems where carrier, hammer and finger lever pivots
- Deburred, polished trigger reset hump and ejector groove on bolt (used two popsicle sticks glued together, 600grit then 1000grit wet sandpaper) and reblued
- Polished finger lever plunger and cut 1 coil off the plunger spring
- Lighten spring tension on loading gate and reblued worked area.
- Upgraded stock plastic follower to a WildWest aluminum follower
- Upgraded stock trigger to a WildWest Trigger Happy trigger
- Ordered Skinner aperature rear and 0.450" front sight post (eyes too old for that Buckhorn rear sight)

Addressing the potential Marlin Jam.

When I looked at the carrier before working on it, the tell tale notch was starting to form. I carefully buffed out the notch so the area was even, being careful not to remove too much material.

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(Borrowed from Rusty Marlin)

I then slightly rounded the cam on the finger lever, polished it and reblued.

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(Borrowed from Rusty Marlin)

Fixing the slight feeding issue.

When I got the rifle, it cycled pretty reliably but the odd occasion a dummy round would catch on the lip of the chamber. Doing some Googling brought me to Rusty Marlin's website. Turns out the timing of the carrier needed tweaking.

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With the current production rifles, you get the new, somewhat improved, carrier but according to Rusty Marlin, it still requires tweaking.

One tip I saw on the Marlin forum showed using a vise and some strategic placement of some pivot points, you can bend the carrier more easily than Rusty's hammering technique.

Rusty did warn about protecting the spring loaded detent in the carrier so I tightly wrapped that end of the carrier with a wet paper towel while heating the loading end of the carrier with a torch. Rusty also recommended bending it upwards 0.05" but I only bent mine 0.02". I was a bit nervous because I wasn't using the best torch and cooling method for fine job. My cooling gel and micro torch was at my bro-in-law's place and was too lazy to go over to get it. I might look into bending it a hair more when I change out the hammer spring.

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Reassembly

Lightly oiled the pivot points and moving parts and reassembled the rifle. WOW! She feels like a totally different rifle than when I got her. She's slick as snot now!

Original trigger pull was 6lbs. With the WildWest Trigger Happy upgrade, it is now at a smooth and clean 3.5lbs. There's a very light bit of take-up but perfectly acceptable. No more sloppy Marlin trigger. I don't think the Wolff Reduced Power hammer spring will make a huge improvement but I'll order one anyway and give it a try since it's only $8.

The only thing left to do is knock the sharp edge off the finger lever loop and reblue it. If I do quick cycling, that sharp edge starts digging into the back of your fingers in a hurry. I thought about doing the leather or cord wrap but I'm not a fan of the look and think it'll attract rust if it gets wet in the rain etc. My G96 Blue Creme should be coming in today so I might do this tonight if I have time.

After adjusting the carrier, the feeding has improved considerably. I cycled the action with 10dummy rounds, a half dozen times, with no hangups using a nice quick/deliberate working of the action. Looks like she'll feed pretty reliably and I don't see a need to adjust the carrier's timing any further.

She's ready for cowboy action... if only I did CASS.

Areas to polish/debur:

All polishing was done using various sized felt wheels, Fitz polish, fine rubber polishing tips, the dreaded Dremel (go ahead and cringe), 600 and 1000 grit emery sandpaper.

On the underside of the bolt assembly, there is a raised bump just behind the firing pin disconnect/safety. This bump is the hammer reset. You want to polish this part not remove any excess material than is required to get it smooth.
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(Totally forgot to take pics of my bolt so borrowed this off the internet)

Deburr any sharp edges of the lever slot on the bolt assembly. Very carefully, lightly polish up the inner walls with a popsicle stick wrapped with some 1000 grit emery sandpaper. Removing the firing pin etc helps.
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(Image borrowed from the internet)

On the bolt, wrap some 600grit emery sandpaper around two popsicle sticks glued together and carefully polish the rough chatter marks along the ejector channel/slot. It's usually pretty pitted up so don't expect to get it perfect. Repeat the step with 1000grit emery sandpaper to give it a nice smooth finish.
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On the ejector, polish along the length of the arm behind the hook.
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On the carrier arm, you want to polish the cupped cartridge area, the front face of the arm, the pivot area and along the bottom ramp area. If there is a notch on the ramp caused by the finger lever (see above for fixing the Marlin Jam), carefully remove it or most of it anyway and polish the ramp. Try to keep a nice even profile or you will feel hitches/jerks when you work the finger lever.
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Polish the sides of the locking bolt as well as the firing pin notch.
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On the finger lever, you want to deburr the rough edges along the arm. Polish the tip of the lever that works the bolt back and forth. File a small radius (Rusty Marlin recommends between 0.025" to 0.035" radius) on the cam and polish this area.
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Nice write up, thanks for sharing!

Do you have any resources with instructions on deburring ?

I have several Marlin's a couple of which will be little projects when time permits.
 
I found some videos on Youtube and did a bunch of reading on the Marlin forum as well as Rusty Marlin's article.

I started doing a lot of the work before realizing that I should have taken pics along the way for this write up. I'm waiting for my Wolff reduced power hammer spring to come in before taking it apart again. I'll stage some pics of the areas I buffed up etc and update my post when I do.

I've been running dummy rounds through the rifle and I did get a couple hangups if I cycled the action too slowly. After doing some research, this too seems to be a common hiccup with the Marlins. Turns out the rounds would sometimes fail to slip under the extractor fully so that when the bolt starts to slide forward to load the round into the chamber, the ammo is being pushed at an angle and causes the jam. This requires you to double cycle the lever. The fix is to lessen the spring tension on the extractor. I'll work on this when I upgrade my spring.

In the meantime, check out these vids and Rusty's article.

Rusty's disassembly instructions
Rusty's fixing the Marlin Jam issues

These are of a model 336 but the principles applies to the 1894.

 
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If you are planning on using .38 sp re-loads in the gun I will pass on a suggestion I have found works very well in the 94's. I crimp the RNFP bullets (it doesn't matter what weight, they all have the same length of nose from the crimp groove) at an OAL of 1.515 (you will be crimping between the crimp groove and first lube groove but it doesn't hurt anything). I have done considerable testing of what length cartridge feed in the Marlins the best and have found this length to feed "without a hitch or catch" in virtually every one I have tried (dozens of different guns).
 
you must have a really bad copy.
mine works fine as it came from JM
I only modified the carrier to allow 200gr silhouette bullets
 
Just thought I'd add an update on my progress so far. I haven't done the full strip and detail pics as yet, prob tomorrow.

So today I decided to knock the sharp edge off the finger lever. Got the Dremel out with a small sanding drum, then finished it up with a 600 grit diamond file.
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Did a degrease and then cold blued it. I tried the G96 blue cream but wasn't having much luck so I redid it with Outers Blue.

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Next, I decided to swap out the stock front sight post with the Skinner one to match my new Skinner rear sight. I got the factory one out without much problems and then proceeded to fit the Skinner sight. After a couple taps the whole freaking front sight ramp snaps clean off and my jaw hits the floor. From the looks of the screws, it seemed like I had sheared the screws right off!

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So I'm in damage control mode trying to figure out how I can extract two tiny broken screws. As I'm cleaning out the threaded holes and removing a few pieces of stripped threads from the screws, I realized that the there isn't any signs of sheared off screws in the holes, just lots of red locktite. So all I need are replacement screws and not a gunsmith to get any screws out. Thanks god!!

I look up replacement screws on Brownells site and these screws were supposed to be 0.200" long with 0.115" of it threaded. I checked my screws and they are only 0.163" long! Turns out that the front sight ramp was being held in place by only a thread and a bit of the screw. WTF!

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G'damn you Marlin!!
 
Another bit of advise...be very certain the new sight fits the dovetail on your front ramp almost perfectly so you don't have to use much force (read as almost no resistance) at all to seat the new sight. those ramps are built from a metal that has no ductile bend properties to it at all, it is very brittle and will break at the dovetail cut very easily.
 
Another bit of advise...be very certain the new sight fits the dovetail on your front ramp almost perfectly so you don't have to use much force (read as almost no resistance) at all to seat the new sight. those ramps are built from a metal that has no ductile bend properties to it at all, it is very brittle and will break at the dovetail cut very easily.

That's pretty much where the new sight is at with regards to the fitting. I estimate it should only take a few light taps with a punch to drift it into place. The thing is by the second tap, the whole front ramp popped off. I'm going to either pick up a Williams sight pusher or figure out how to make the one I got at home work on this sight.

Thanks.
 
are you sure the screws weren't too short, and only threaded in a couple threads then stripped out? Almost looks like that in the pics but hard to tell.
 
are you sure the screws weren't too short, and only threaded in a couple threads then stripped out? Almost looks like that in the pics but hard to tell.

Yup, the screws are way too short. Got the right length screws ordered from Brownells and going to order a sight pusher. None of the sight pushers I have work with this ramp site and I don't want to risk trying to tap in the new sight post and accidentally shear the new screws. I don't think I'll be lucky 2x in a row. lol
 
Updated the original post to include the polishing areas.

Installed the reduced hammer spring last night. Trigger went down from 3.5lbs to 1.5lbs. Hummm, might be too light for a hunting rifle but okay for plinking at the range. It sure made cycling the hammer easier. I didn't replace the finger lever plunger spring 'cause I'd already snipped a coil off the factory spring. I've read a few reviews on the Wolff lighter spring and folks were saying that it barely held the finger lever in place.

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Picked up a 6mm shim kit from the local RC hobby store tonight and used a 0.2mm shim on either side of the finger lever. It eliminated a bit of the lever slop/wiggle.

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I'm just waiting for my replacement front ramp screws so I can install my front sight and a replacement extractor and my 1894 project rifle is done. :)
 
My new extractor spring came in last week and I also picked up a one-piece firing pin kit from RustWood. It came with the firing pin, reduced power hammer spring and finger lever catch spring.

Knocked out the pins from the bolt from the underside up. It doesn't make a difference for the two roll pins but it does for the extractor pin.

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I knocked down the sharp edges of the new firing pin.

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Installation of the one piece firing pin is pretty easy. Just make sure the notch at the end of the firing pin faces the roll pin hole. Slip a punch into the roll pin hole to help keep it aligned while you tap in the other roll pin.
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Installed the new extractor spring and gently straighten it out to remove some tension to reduce feeding hiccups.
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Found some better shims at the local RC store. The ones I had before were 6x8mm and while they fit, I found the width was too thin and would allow some wiggle in the finger lever. The new ones are 6x11x0.2mm. The new ones were a bit too snug and I had to polish them on 600grit then 2000grit emery sandpaper to around 0.17" each. The fit is soooo much better now. There's hardly any wiggle and the lever is still nice and smooth. They look like they would be too large but this is a spare shim in the photo with the new shims already installed and you can't see them protruding.
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My replacement front sight screws came in as well but the first half thread on one of the screw holes were slightly damaged during my front sight incident. My flat-bottom 6-48 tap should come in this week... :)
 
Thanks for all your posts and photos.

Also, really appreciate the tip about shims at RC hobby store. Why didn't I think of that?!

I have a GBL that I have done many of the same mods to, It sure feels nicer than the day I picked it up.

Shim shopping on the next trip to town!
 
Just curious as to why you decided to put in the one piece firing pin?
And what did all them kibble and bits from start to finish set you
back as far as moohlah$.....?

Almost tempted to take after my new to me 44mag.
Seems good to go the way it is.
 
Thanks for all your posts and photos.
Also, really appreciate the tip about shims at RC hobby store. Why didn't I think of that?!
I have a GBL that I have done many of the same mods to, It sure feels nicer than the day I picked it up.
Shim shopping on the next trip to town!

No probs. It's a fun project when you're stuck indoors. If you can't find 'em at the RC shop, let me know.

Just curious as to why you decided to put in the one piece firing pin?
And what did all them kibble and bits from start to finish set you
back as far as moohlah$.....?

I've read a few guys saying that with the reduce power hammer spring, they had experienced the odd light primer strike. I popped five CCI primers with the rifle and stock firing pin without any problems. I figured, what the heck and picked up the new firing pin. I don't think it was a required upgrade.

For slicking up the rifle. Not much is required other than elbow grease.

If you want to go one step further, just the spring kit (if that) is needed. You could just cut a ring or two off the factory springs to accomplish the same thing as the spring kits.

Wolff Reduced Power spring kit - $12.

To remove the wiggle in the finger lever, you just need the shim kit. Another option is to make your own if you have a 0.2mm or slightly thinner sheet of brass shim.

RC Differential Shims 6x11mm pack - $8./12

The one piece firing pin was $46.

If you can use the stock iron sights, lucky you. For me with bad eyes, I had to get a rear peep sight system. The Skinner rear peep and front sight post was $130.CND shipped.

I've only had to purchase the replacement extractor spring and front sight screws 'cause mine were either broken by the factory (extractor spring) or by myself (front sight screws).
 
Yay! My flat bottom 6-48 taps came in yesterday!

I cleaned up the damaged threads. Hummm, for a flat bottom tap, it's still got a bit of a taper at the tip but just enough to clean up the top thread.
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Used my new Williams sight pusher and installed my new Skinner front sight post. Wish I'd done this from the start. I learned my lesson now.
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Ready for sighting in!

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(Barrel isn't really clamped into the vise if that's what you're thinking from the pic)

That's it! Project is completed. She runs slick as snot on a doorknob, upgraded peep sights I can finally use... but can she shoot?! lol
 
I was just wondering if a teflon washer might serve the lever well, taking up some slop, but being slippery as well.
 
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