Hello everyone. I'm just looking for people's advise on slide catches or slide stops on semi automatic pistols. I purchased a Grand Power K22 X-Trim and the slide catch does not hold open at all even with the magazine in the gun. I've been trying to have Grand Power look at the problem but the Owner of Grand Power Canada is telling me that his guns do not have to meet that criteria. I'm not sure why there would be a slide release if they're not needed? If you want to spend a lot of money on a crappy hand gun with zero customer service by a Grand Power!
Slide Catch/Stop?
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I have repaired a lot of 1911 slide stops for people that have pistols that behaved the same way.
I build up the part of the stop that is supposed to engage the mag follower by Tig welding, then hand working it with files and polishing. I fit it in the pistol with the slide removed and a mag inserted, making sure that it does not interfere with the ends of bullets in the mag (this can cause the gun to lock open mid mag. It is a simple, quick repair. If you are interested send me a PM.
I build up the part of the stop that is supposed to engage the mag follower by Tig welding, then hand working it with files and polishing. I fit it in the pistol with the slide removed and a mag inserted, making sure that it does not interfere with the ends of bullets in the mag (this can cause the gun to lock open mid mag. It is a simple, quick repair. If you are interested send me a PM.
If you insert the loaded magazine by slamming it into the mag well and the slide goes forward chambering a round it is absolutely CORRECT for the Grand Power pistols. They have this kind of an "assisted loading" feature. A have a GP K22S and it does that. However, if you insert the mag slowly the slide should stay back. Also, after the last shot the slide should lock back. If it does then everything is normal.
That is correct ( IMO ). They are designed to be used in competition and seating a new mag with a bit of force
lets the slide go forward and pickup a new round. Faster than having to insert the mag & then release the slide.
It's a feature not a flaw.
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It is a feature, and not a defect on Grand Power pistols in general. They are designed to auto forward.
As for the OP’s gun not locking back, THAT is a defect. Good luck dealing with Dave Copping, he’s a huge Richard.
You'd better read more about the Grand Power pistols before you make comments. Like collinjw above explained they are designed for competition and they, indeed, have that auto forward feature! If the OP's pistol doesn't hold open AT ALL that would be a flaw. But I'm not sure what the OP really means. Let him comment. Generally, the Grand Power pistols are of very high quality even a 22LR.
OP clearly said "doesn't hold open at all".
And with the right marketing mind, any defect can be labeled as a "feature". Judging by the comments GP has made to the OP it sounds like they don't really give a #### because they already got their money. Wouldn't put it past a company like that to pretend it's a "feature".
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I would not pay for this "feature".
We leave our slides open when going down range to change targets.
We leave our slides open when going down range to change targets.
Put the mag in the gun empty and pull the slide back, and see if you have any movement on the stop, Will it hold if you push up on it?
I have not worked on these, so don't know what is happening, Mag problem?, stop too short? slide stop real tight and mag spring pressure not pushing it up ?
sounds like warranty repair is a waste of time, I knew a used truck salesman like that a few years ago, these days he has a job that is more in his line,
he is a greeter at Wal Mart, and can't do that very good .
I have not worked on these, so don't know what is happening, Mag problem?, stop too short? slide stop real tight and mag spring pressure not pushing it up ?
sounds like warranty repair is a waste of time, I knew a used truck salesman like that a few years ago, these days he has a job that is more in his line,
he is a greeter at Wal Mart, and can't do that very good .
I've personally handled the OP's gun at the range with him.. I can confirm everything he says. And the communications via email he's had from the sales rep are appalling. I only hope he posts them.
Auto-Forward, lol. That sounds like a great marketing effort by a manufacturer to explain a defect. Funny how this "auto forward feature" is only found on cheap firearms like the M&P, GSG 1911 22's and the grand power. Now I know he paid almost $800 for this GP, I would not pay more than $500 and even that's a stretch when gauging the quality materials fit and finish.
I know from personal experience with the OP's gun will not lock back under ANY condition. But of course the rep explained this was they way they were designed. Well if that's the case I suppose the slide stop is merely there for cosmetic purposes.
The gun is defective. Do you know how I know this? because if you put upward pressure on the slide stop, it will hold open and you cannot move the slide forward. You can see about 1mm movement upward. But as soon as you let go it releases.
I wouldn't take a grand power if you paid me.
Auto-Forward, lol. That sounds like a great marketing effort by a manufacturer to explain a defect. Funny how this "auto forward feature" is only found on cheap firearms like the M&P, GSG 1911 22's and the grand power. Now I know he paid almost $800 for this GP, I would not pay more than $500 and even that's a stretch when gauging the quality materials fit and finish.
I know from personal experience with the OP's gun will not lock back under ANY condition. But of course the rep explained this was they way they were designed. Well if that's the case I suppose the slide stop is merely there for cosmetic purposes.
The gun is defective. Do you know how I know this? because if you put upward pressure on the slide stop, it will hold open and you cannot move the slide forward. You can see about 1mm movement upward. But as soon as you let go it releases.
I wouldn't take a grand power if you paid me.
Sounds like the stop is too short, or is buggered( from the factory) I would get ahold of Grand power direct and tell them the story and send them the response from the Ca. dist. dip#### that he tried to get some help from. Some one once asked me if I could get one of these for him, Glad I did not.
You're not reading it properly. The auto forward is a feature that pushes the slide forward when you insert a magazine when the slide is locked back. It is a feature to speed up reloads.
Your buddies pistol doesn't lock back, so he can't even use this feature (as it only applied to a slide locked pistol), but yes, it is one and can be a useful one.
The slide not locking back is a defect, the auto-forward is a feature.
Whatever you think it's not going to change the fact that "auto forward" is a prominent feature of Grand Power pistols. Apparently, you don't know much about the Grand Power pistols. Even the least expensive Grand Power K22S (22LR) is NOT cheap. It's definitely not in the same league as the GSG 1911 (I have one too). I've had my Grand Power K22S (see pic), which is a lesser version of the GP 22X-Trim, for over 2 years with 2200 shots on it and NEVER EVER had any malfunction! It's been working like an old Singer sewing machine. In addition, I've never heard about any complaints about the GP K22S (or X-Trim) from other users. The GP K22S (or K22X-Trim) is a superbly designed pistol. Its STEEL slide, nicely coated against corrosion, is second to none. No other 22LR pistol on the market has a steel slide. It comes with 4 backstraps to fit any shape of human hand. It's very accurate. Very pleasant to shoot.
It's possible that the OP's pistol is faulty. However, if so, I don't believe that it came this way from the factory. My guess is that it must have been damaged somehow. Furthermore, most of problems with slide locking arise from the faulty magazines. The magazines for the GP K22S and K22X-Trim are PLASTIC. I have 6 of them. Two mags came with the pistol and they have a mark in a circle "G and GRAND POWER". These two magazines work perfectly. The other 4 mags I bought from D-Lask some time ago which were remnants from a big batch he once had. They don't have any markings and sometimes have hiccups.
OP look into the magazines you use.
^^^ This
Otherwise I guess Shadows and Shadow 2s are cheap pieces of garbage too, because they auto-forward when you slam in a mag. Note the word "slam".
05RAV: My X-Trim is annoying as ####. Only two brands of ammo work with it. Anything else and it's a jam-o-matic. If I leave the slide locked back and carefully place it on the bench, it'll be ok. Until someone farts nearby. Then those moving air molecules will disturb the delicate balance, and the slide will slam forward.
That's why I'm going to file the notch in the slide. The angle appears wrong.
