Slide Catch/Stop?

Unfortunately poor firearm support in Canada isn't unique to GP. As Canadian we continually get shafted when it comes to after purchase support but we (myself included) keep buying their firearms. This behaviour only helps confirm the manufacturers position of "Canadians will buy our product regardless of support". It's gotten so bad that I've learned to do all my gunsmithing myself.

The gun is definitely defective in some way but if you want a resolution stop posting here and focus your attention on GP. Send emails/letters and or call everyone/anyone at GP, they might help just to get you off their back. I had to use this approach when dealing with CSA and after many months of badgering I finally won.

Good luck OP, keep us posted.
 
omg, seriously. Auto forwarding is neither a defect nor a feature, it's simply a matter of physics. Hold the gun at the correct angle and when you slam a mag in the gun moves, the slide actually tries to stay in the same area of space it previously occupied, thanks to the recoil spring, which compresses. this allows the slide stop to drop (it has a spring that causes that), thereby allowing the slide to go forward. Design of slidestops can make this easier or harder, as can the shape of the cut on the slide, but if you know what you are doing pretty much every handgun will do this.
As for the problem this gun is having, please confirm, with only one hand on the gun and empty mag inserted, pull the slide to the rear, does it lock back? Video would be helpful.
 
I guess I am old school, but when I pull the slide back , it had better stay back, Auto forward ? bull crap, the gun is defective.
Would be nice if we could see a good close up of the slide and stop with the slide back and a empty mag in it .
 
no the gun isn't defective if it autofowards when you slam a mag in. If it does it randomly sure, defective.
 
I have a HK pistol. It has Auto Forward. If you very, very gently insert a loaded magazine, it drops the slide as it seats. It is designed to do that.

I have found that a number of other pistols will do it, if you slam the mag in. A handy feature when shooting against the clock.

I have a pair of Grand Powers (K100 and a X-Trim). They both do it. And they lock back reliably, too.
 
PM Meroh. He fixed my issue with my 1911 lickety split. I had issues with the slide not staying open when the magazines (5 different ones from various manufacturers) and the slide now snaps open with every one.
 
Slavex said:
omg, seriously. Auto forwarding is neither a defect nor a feature, it's simply a matter of physics. Hold the gun at the correct angle and when you slam a mag in the gun moves, the slide actually tries to stay in the same area of space it previously occupied, thanks to the recoil spring, which compresses. this allows the slide stop to drop (it has a spring that causes that), thereby allowing the slide to go forward. Design of slidestops can make this easier or harder, as can the shape of the cut on the slide, but if you know what you are doing pretty much every handgun will do this.
As for the problem this gun is having, please confirm, with only one hand on the gun and empty mag inserted, pull the slide to the rear, does it lock back? Video would be helpful.
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THIS.
Thank you Slavex
The gun is not designed to "auto forward". And it can be done with most pistols if you have the technique down.
Next you guys are gonna say that the slam fire on an SKS is a feature as well.

Op you may want to see if you can compare your pistol side by side with another example and see if there are any defects in the slide lock cut on the slide or with the slide release/lock lever its self. It may be as simple as replacing the slide release.

Sorry that GP is not helping you out. Pretty dirty business tactics.
 
For those who compete the auto forward action Slavex describes is a feature as it saves us time on our reloads. For those who shoot at the range once in awhile and are not involved in action shooting then the feature is not considered a feature. To call it a defect when in most instance anything that gets you back in action is a "feature" is a bit silly.

The M&P is not a "cheap" pistol so the snob who writes such nonsense knows little of what he speaks. The gun is a service pistol. It is not an Olympic Free pistol. You don't sell service pistols to cash strapped Police Departments by making a $5,000 hand made unatanium framed pistol capable of removing eyelashes off a fly at 50 meters. We use it in action shooting sports but that is not the guns target market.

Without seeing the gun I would suspect the slide stop is out of spec or the mag followers are bumping off the slide stop when the last round is fired. This would also account for the slide not holding back when the slide is racked with just an empty mag inserted. I had the opposite issue with a pistol I owned when I shot 147 gr bullets in the gun only it was the bullet olgive that was the culprit. The slide would lock back with rounds in the gun or when the last round rose to the top.

Take Care

Bob
 
I will be filing a new angle in my slide, and maybe touching up the slide stop lever mating surface with a dremel. I tried filing it yesterday, but my file profile sucks and I need to buy another.
 
Finally bought a small triangle file and went at it. Filed a slight reverse bevel in the slide, rather than the STUPID angle it was made with. Then pulled apart the gun and removed the slide release lever to file a new angle on that.

Dry tested it out at home, and it's much better. Now a nearby fart won't release the slide, and it'll still release when I give it a good bump. It should have come this way from the factory.
 
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