Slugs and Removable Chokes ?

Issue resolved folks.

Those extended chokes just needed to be tightened with a choke wrench and as the flush chokes need to be.

Hand tightening is not enough ..... !!!

But his leads me to another problem .....

Some choke manufacturers advertise that all that is needed is hand tightening .... and their chokes don't even have grooves any more and for a choke wrench to engage .... :confused:

Now I am on the hunt for a universal choke wrench that also works with very tight Turkey chokes ... and that does not need grooves in the choke to engage it ....

Might have to invest in a good pair of pliers .....
 
0faustus0 said:
Issue resolved folks.

Those extended chokes just needed to be tightened with a choke wrench and as the flush chokes need to be.

Hand tightening is not enough ..... !!!

But his leads me to another problem .....

Some choke manufacturers advertise that all that is needed is hand tightening .... and their chokes don't even have grooves any more and for a choke wrench to engage .... :confused:

Now I am on the hunt for a universal choke wrench that also works with very tight Turkey chokes ... and that does not need grooves in the choke to engage it ....

Might have to invest in a good pair of pliers .....
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Actually, my Muller chokes don't require the use of a choke wrench at all, and using anti seize on the threads, they never come loose. Muller actually sells a choke wrench that works with an expanding inner piece that presses a rubber sleeve against the bore of the choke, but I have actually never used mine. Other manufacturers likely sell a similar choke wrench.
 
Just a small drop of blue or fletcher tight or wood glue. Screw in, then out, allow to dry fully then put together. It adds just that little extra friction.
 
Big Bad said:
In ancient times (the 20th century), boxes of Foster slugs stated they were designed to be used with full choke guns, I safely assume because nearly every gun out there was choked 'full.' Seems like the makers of the things must provide specific directions, or at least suggestions, somewhere?
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Designed to be safely used n a fixed full choke does not make it a good idea in a removable choke, or that it’s how those slugs shoot best.
 
0faustus0 said:
Why?

Modern removable full chokes can handle steel shot ..... older fixed full chokes cannot.
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Ask a gunsmith if they have ever seen a bulged fixed full choke from shooting steel that was not rusted together into a solid mass.

Short answer. Never happens.

Gun makers sometimes did not recommend it because gun makers want to sell new guns.

Objectively, I see bulged and stuck choke tube all the time in the shop.

YMMV.

Ps: steel through any full choke will usually pattern extra full. Maybe ok for turkey, not much good for much else.
 
Claven2 said:
Ask a gunsmith if they have ever seen a bulged fixed full choke from shooting steel that was not rusted together into a solid mass.

Short answer. Never happens.

Gun makers sometimes did not recommend it because gun makers want to sell new guns.

Objectively, I see bulged and stuck choke tube all the time in the shop.

YMMV.

Ps: steel through any full choke will usually pattern extra full. Maybe ok for turkey, not much good for much else.
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Well, this still does not explain why one should not shoot a rifled slug through a removable full choke.

I mean some ammo manufacturers print this on their boxes: "Can be shot through any choke!"

And we are talking about slug ammo that was produced last year .... and not 60 years ago .... ;)
 
0faustus0 said:
Well, this still does not explain why one should not shoot a rifled slug through a removable full choke.

I mean some ammo manufacturers print this on their boxes: "Can be shot through any choke!"

And we are talking about slug ammo that was produced last year .... and not 60 years ago .... ;)
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Too many variables to give one answer. Not all tubes are created the same, not all guys install them to the same torque, etc.

But the reality is choke tubes are much more likely to bulge than fixed chokes. If it were me, I would pattern with the most open chokes first before resorting to using full chokes. Why go there if you don’t need to?
 
Claven2 said:
If it were me, I would pattern with the most open chokes first before resorting to using full chokes. ...
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Why do you assume this has not been done?

I tested those slugs through an Improved Cylinder and a Modified choke ... and patterns are more or less the same as a Full choke!

Claven2 said:
Why go there if you don’t need to?
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Because sometimes we want to be able to shoot a tight pattern lead BB loads ... or #4 buckshot load ... and an accurate slug out of the same gun without having to change chokes in the field. And that is just one application why people want to go there .... :D

Maybe you need to think a bit more about different hunting applications and where people need a tight choke and still want to be able to shoot a slug accurately ....

I am sure you can come up with a couple of scenarios .... right? ;)
 
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Claven2 said:
I guess the would just never hunt deer and waterfowl at the same time so quickly that I can’t change a choke tube.
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I guess some of us are a bit more opportunistic ....

I am shooting waterfowl, deer and turkeys out of the same ground blind .... and with the same gun .... not to mention the occasional coyote ... and beaver ... ;)

And yes, .. it is totally safe to shoot slugs out of a removable Full choke!!!

I am even experimenting with shooting round balls through an extra tight Turkey choke ....
 
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