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Ok I used the winchester slugs and they don't seem that great. Someone suggested I swith to foster slugs or Brenneke slugs.
Where do I buy those types of slugs in quebec or ontario
Thanks
 
I think you will need to call some local gun shops to get them. The Challenger slugs and Brenneke are great. Most stores around me have them.
 
RevolverRodger said:
Ok I used the winchester slugs and they don't seem that great.
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What exactly is "not that great", and what kind of gun are you using?

If you want more penetration/stoping power Brenekee is the way to go, most shop could special order them for you.

If accuracy is the problem and you are shooting them out of a smooth bore, may I suggest better sights and more practice ;)
 
Accuracy Plus out of Peterborough will deal with you for Brennekes.

By the by, I am assuming we are taking about a smoothbore shotgun here, preferably a 12 bore but a 20 will suffice for deer and such, closer in that is.

Remember, a shotgun using slugs, one must have any type of rifle type sights to try to get any kind of accuracy out of your smoothie....

Bench the darn thing, as you would a deer rifle.....keep your maximum range realistic.

Good luck,
 
Hello there,
I'm using a smooth bore and am not very impressed by the penetration of these slugs (not first hand experience but from what someone told me)
I ment I was looking for Challenger slugs and Brenneke not challenger sorry.
 
RevolverRoger, personally I believe you made the most correct choice in regards to Brenneke, probably Rotweill Classic slugs, made with the felt wad screwed to the base of and almost wadcutter type slug.

Wilhelm Brenneke wanted to develop a more effective slug, as the local "pumpkin" roundballs were terrible wounders of game at anything other than point blank range.
He first invented his slug in 1898, and finalized his design in and around 1930-32.

It performs very well compared to most traditional slugs
(IE Foster or Forster?) Plus it is commonly utilized in places like Alaska/Yukon
regions as the #1 choice for 12 bore shotgun performance on large dangerous critters. Only a Dixie slug could outperform it, but I have yet to see them in Canada, plus I believe Dixie concentrates its production, on slugs for rifled shotgun barrels(??)Unless you are a LE officer, who have access to Dixie slugs for smoothbore shotguns apparently.

I launched a single Brenneke slug at a wild boar near the Battlefords of Saskatchewan, and he croaked at 75 yards, double lunged him, never left the spot, expired in less than 30 seconds.

PS I did practice a lot before this trip, at 25, 50, 75 & the maximum distance of 100 yards, my self imposed limit. My M37 DSPS Ithaca shotgun has really good iron sites on it.

So, you will find me to be, an avid advocate of these tuetonic hunks of lead...
 
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RevolverRodger said:
Hello there,
I'm using a smooth bore and am not very impressed by the penetration of these slugs (not first hand experience but from what someone told me)
I ment I was looking for Challenger slugs and Brenneke not challenger sorry.
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I am not sure what you mean... but, from first hand experience, Challenger 2-3/4" Magnum Slugs (1-1/8 oz) have PLENTY of penetration power. They drop deer in their tracks out past 50 meters easily. They also bust their way through a pumpkin, through an 8" thick piece of oak, and create a crater that is 18" deep and the slug is buried another 10" or more deeper in frozen dirt...

Blue box... smooth bores rock.
 
I use 3 " . 1 1/4 slugs.
I have a red dot and can hit pretty consistantly 1" at 50 yards.
I recommend what he said and bench it and try some diffrent ammo.
each gun will shoot diffrent .
now about these dixies slugs!!! :evil:
 
I tried the Hornady's this year with no success. It seemed that everyone in our group of five had different results. The longer barrels with the slightly slower twists shot them very well. I have had good luck with the win slugs but nothing shoots better out of my gun at 100 than the big ugly Rem buck hammers. Doesnt make sense to me.:confused:
 
Brutus:

If I may ask, are you buying factory ammo, or are you buying components and reloading.

I myself have about a box (that 25) of the lyman shocker slugs loaded up for testing. These slugs look like a 177 flat head pellet on steriods.

Lets face it, reloading buck and slug is a worth while endevour as I find factory for both prohibitively expensive, wich puts a real damper on practice.

Further if you are geting them in component form, where from, and is there any posiblity of casting these mosters??

Really appreciate any input you might have.

regards and all the best

AbH
 
AbHobyist, I am not a total sap...I have here, some 20 gauge data for lyman "sabot" slugs. Just like in your post, these look like BIG overgrown air gun pellets.

Wad-20S1, Primer-Fed. 209A, 20 bore 2 3/4 inch Federal case, 27.0 grains of Blue Dot, Velocity of 1306 fps. Slug weight-350 grain

I have an Ithaca M37 Featherlight, that I put a 20 inch rifled barrel on, and with iron sights had 2 inch groups at 35 and 75 yards.

Only one flier, we believe caused by improper wad seating pressure.

Be warned in slugs, the wad seating pressure, makes for a huge difference in POI.

The lyman sabot slugs came from, hankypanky1945@hotmail.com
Unfortuneately Ammomart, often are sold out of this mould....
Its been a long time since I dealt with him,so the email may be upper case too!
I could be wrong, but he could be the small supplier from New Jersey and adverts at Shotgunworld.com, which also hosts the A.S.S.A. (Amercain Slug Shooters Association)

Cheers :)
 
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Brutis:

Thanks for sharing!! I had no idea that wad preassure was so critical, something to learn always.

The work I am doing is with 12 gauge. I had previously found some of the shocker slugs on the board here, and have secured some lead and a mould to cast some more.

The data is quite intersting in that the manuals show a wide variety of components yeilding significant differences. I have settled on a couple of loads and components, and will need to pay attention to all the detials and make copious notes.

Further I have access to both fully rifled and smoth bore guns.

On another front, I am loading my own 00 buck as well, with buffer belive it or not.

All this should make for some interesting testing, and perhaps some interesteing post.

Again I appreciate you time and look forward to further discussion.

regards and all the best

AbH
 
Cool I hope you can benefit from this info.
Not a bad idea on the buckshot Abhobyist, any buffering is recommended...I have not yet reloaded for buckshot, but never say never!

When I need more shotgun slug data, I often visit Shotgunworld.com lots of excellent info there.

Cheers...
 
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Brutis:

Thanks for sharing!! I had no idea that wad preassure was so critical, something to learn always.

The work I am doing is with 12 gauge. I had previously found some of the shocker slugs on the board here, and have secured some lead and a mould to cast some more.

The data is quite intersting in that the manuals show a wide variety of components yeilding significant differences. I have settled on a couple of loads and components, and will need to pay attention to all the detials and make copious notes.

Further I have access to both fully rifled and smoth bore guns.

On another front, I am loading my own 00 buck as well, with buffer belive it or not.

All this should make for some interesting testing, and perhaps some interesteing post.

Again I appreciate you time and look forward to further discussion.

regards and all the best

AbH
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I use 35lbs for the wad pressure, you don't need any more than that.

All the wad pressure does is eliminate the ait=r space in the hull, thus allowing the pressure to build up.
 
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