slugs in my pocket

"...is this right?..." Yep. He's lucky he wasn't arrested, charged with hunting out of season and lose his gun(and everything else he had with him), his hunting licence, PAL, etc. etc. What he told you he was hunting doesn't matter.
"...can find you guilty..." They don't find you guilty of anything. The courts do that. The CO's just file the charges. They can't touch you unless you've been arrested either. Or search your home or vehicle without a reason. Or your permission.
 
shot larger than No. 2 shot
(or if using non-toxic shot, you may not use steel shot larger
than triple BBB steel shot, or bismuth shot that is larger
than double BB bismuth shot), unless you possess a valid
licence to hunt deer, moose or black bear as the case may be.
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So I can go to Ontario and shoot at deer with T shot goose loads or #1 pheasant loads???
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
That's incorrect, they can search without a warrant if the believe evidence may be compromised, e.g. you are going to eat it.
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CO's can search anything except a dwelling house without warrant if they believe their is evidence of an offence within.

Dwelling house w/o warrant on exigent circumstances.

I do not believe they have inbridled search authority of a person. Something similar to an LEO I'd imagine. Which would be a pat down, you have shells let me see them etc.

I think post #1 is lacking detail or is fictional.
 
superd222 said:
Here it is, right from the regs:

Firearms
In an area where there is an open gun season for deer,
moose or black bear, if you are the holder of a small game
licence you may not possess or use a rifle of greater
calibre or projectile power than a .22 calibre rim-fire rifle
chambered to .22 short, .22 long or .22 long rifle cartridges
or shells loaded with ball or with shot larger than No. 2 shot
(or if using non-toxic shot, you may not use steel shot larger
than triple BBB steel shot, or bismuth shot that is larger
than double BB bismuth shot), unless you possess a valid
licence to hunt deer, moose or black bear as the case may be.
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what about if you have no small game licence? Suppose you are fishing and have a shotgun for protection?
 
In Ontario CO's have NO MORE AUTHORITIY THAN ANY POLICE OFFICER.

I have been hearing this for years. I don't know where it started that CO's are some kind of Super Search Power Heroes.

Police officers ARE CO's for the purposes of enforcing the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act in Ontario.

From the Act:
The following persons are conservation officers for the purposes of this Act by virtue of their office:

1. A police officer or First Nations Constable appointed under the Police Services Act.

2. A member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

3. A game officer designated under the Migratory Birds Convention Act, 1994 (Canada).

4. A park warden designated under the National Parks Act (Canada), if he or she is acting under the direction of a conservation officer appointed under subsection (1).

5. A person whose primary employment responsibility is the enforcement of fish and wildlife laws in Manitoba, Quebec, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania or Wisconsin, if he or she is acting under the direction of a conservation officer appointed under subsection (1).
They would only be able to search a person if the person was arrested.

CO's may NOT search a building that his being used as a dwelling without a warrant.

Searches without warrant

(2) If a conservation officer believes on reasonable grounds that there is in a building or other place any thing that will afford evidence of an offence under this Act but that the time required to obtain a search warrant would lead to the loss, removal or destruction of the evidence, the conservation officer may, without a search warrant, enter and search the building or other place.

Dwellings

(3) Subsection (2) does not apply to a building or part of a building that is being used as a dwelling

See Part III - Enforcement
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_97f41_e.htm#BK100
 
Redfrog said:
what about if you have no small game licence? Suppose you are fishing and have a shotgun for protection?
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In Ontario, you cannot tell a CO that you have a gun for "self defense/ protection...not allowed.

But crows, coyotes (most of Ont.) and others can be hunted year-round...so you are hunting.

Technicality, yes, but it is a way around the "system". :)
 
beefman said:
In Ontario, you cannot tell a CO that you have a gun for "self defense/ protection...not allowed.

But crows, coyotes (most of Ont.) and others can be hunted year-round...so you are hunting.

Technicality, yes, but it is a way around the "system". :)
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Thats fine if there isn't an open big game season. Buying a bear tag would cover you for most of the rest.
 
Except your small games license is not valid up north for late spring till the end of the summer... So no coyote excuses then.
 
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_97f41_e.htm#BK124

Ontario Fish and Wildlife Conservation act said:
“hunting” includes,
(a) lying in wait for,
searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing, chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed, or

(b) capturing or harassing wildlife,
except that “hunting” does not include,

(c) trapping, or

(d) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of or pursuing wildlife for a purpose other than attempting to kill, injure, capture or harass it, unless the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed as a result,
and “hunt” and “hunter” have corresponding meanings; (“chasse”, “chasser”, “chasseur”)
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further along, and more inline with the op, we have


109. In a prosecution under this Act in respect of hunting or trapping,

(a) proof that a person possessed, in an area usually inhabited by wildlife, a firearm, trap, decoy or other hunting or trapping device, a ferret or a specially protected raptor or other bird of prey, is proof, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that the person was hunting or trapping, as the case may be; and

(b) proof that a person shot at or stalked a decoy or other device placed by a conservation officer to suggest the presence of wildlife is proof, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that the person was hunting. 1997, c. 41, s. 109.
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superd222 said:
Firearms
In an area where there is an open gun season for deer,
moose or black bear, if you are the holder of a small game
licence you may not possess or use a rifle of greater
calibre or projectile power than a .22 calibre rim-fire rifle
chambered to .22 short, .22 long or .22 long rifle cartridges
or shells loaded with ball or with shot larger than No. 2 shot
(or if using non-toxic shot, you may not use steel shot larger
than triple BBB steel shot, or bismuth shot that is larger
than double BB bismuth shot), unless you possess a valid
licence to hunt deer, moose or black bear as the case may be.
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What about a .22 magnum ? is that "to big" for small game hunting?


Good god, I never wana move to ontario.
 
That regulation everyone is quoting is referring to the carrying of slugs during the open season for large game. The OP said that bear season was not yet open, so what's the deal? What is the infraction in this case? Was deer season open?
 
Need more info, some people call grouse quail or partridge. We call them chickens and if I carry slugs for bear protection while the big game season is on I make sure my wifey is along and give her the slugs to carry, in her bra.
Now think about the CO's super power and after he does a body search he finds nothing on your body? What was his RPG's the bulge in your pants?
:stirthepot2:
 
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