Smaller Woods ???

even better is a guy climbing up a railway light satndard that you are sitting below in a chair. and then 5 minutes later you look up and he's looking at you through the scope of his gun
 
Just for the record you are right about legal easments and unopen road allowances, the problem is although the unopen road allowance is there and usally in a straight line the terrain is not always navagable through it via wetlands , ponds, swamp, impossible ridge etc... IF a land owner doesn't want you hunting on his land and you stray off the road allowance with a firearm, then you can be accused of hunting his land and leave your self open for prosecution. And if you do find a passable unopen road allowance you can not shoot anything while you are passing because then you are huning on the private land so you must wait until you reach the crown land before discharging your fiream. And before you get there it would be wise to leave your firearm unload to proof your not hunting on the private land. We had lots of different places to hunt on crown via private but the owner passed away about 5 years ago and we got shut out by the new owners. I guess we should of bought it but we thought is was over priced for what it was. Any way things have a way of working out.
Jay said:
Well, IIRC, there is always a LEGAL way to access land (be it crown or otherwise) "surrounded" by private land... An easement/right of way HAS to be provided... So, if there is ONLY one road in, then THAT's the access road, period, full stop, end of story.

I suggest you talk to your local conservation office & discuss the issue. They have likely heard the problem time & again, and will provide you with some info.

Cheers
Jay
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I tried to buy some crown a few years ago, the MNR has learned thier lesson by thier mistakes in ONtario anyway, I was told by the MNR they are not selling anymore crwon land. Before all you needed was a good idea for the use of land and bingo cash and go but not anymore.
Kenny_G2 said:
For years the MNR has sold off these land locked pieces of crown land to adjacent landowners. Back when the Conservatives gutted MNR a forestry supervisor I was tlaking with was quite proud of how much land locked Crownland he sold to support MNR operations.
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There's a parcel of crown land that I used to live near, mainly swamp and a great place for deer. By all maps and satellite imagery I've looked at, the large corn field that cuts into the crown land is in fact crown land. There was a fair size island of a cedar stand kind of out in the middle of the corn, and a buddy of mine who was new to hunting had been sitting in a ground blind in that cedar area while bowhunting. I was hunting a private tract a few concessions up. One morning, I get a message from him that he'd shot a doe, so I headed over to help him out. We're dragging the deer across the cornfield, he had the map on him showing that its crown. Halfway out into the field, we see a truck tearing across the field, heading right at us. We put down the deer, get out the map and wait, up pulls the farmer, sticks his head out the window and says "I see you had some luck, I'm just out looking for my dog that run off, throw that deer in the back and I'll give you a lift to your truck." We were quite surprised to say the least, and it turned out that we got permission to hunt geese on the rest of his property, which was quite productive.
 
daveg01 said:
I've had these issues too in the past. I've even had guys tell me that they have been hunting these 2000 acres of crown for 50 years and that I should find somewhere else. One old guy was yelling at me while insinuating that I could get shot if I wasn't careful.

I eventually got access to private land and haven't had to deal with those issues since.
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yup i was talking to a guy that instpects campsites up north and he goes on about howthe old boys up here have hunted this land for ages and consider it their own, and made a comment about them outgunning me
 
Now thats a feel good story. Most land owners unless hunters would of called the MNR where I hunt. I must admit I finally purchased 130 acres which land locks crown land behind me on both sides of the road. I have spoke to the 2 camps in my area and we managed to work out an agreement on boundaries for 1st and 2nd weeks of deer hunting on the crown. One camp that is only 12 years old crosses my land via an old access trail, I have left the trail open for sleders and atv"rs, outside of hunting season. And allow the camp to access thier property with it as well. No point being a Pr***k about it.
Patrick Gidlet said:
There's a parcel of crown land that I used to live near, mainly swamp and a great place for deer. By all maps and satellite imagery I've looked at, the large corn field that cuts into the crown land is in fact crown land. There was a fair size island of a cedar stand kind of out in the middle of the corn, and a buddy of mine who was new to hunting had been sitting in a ground blind in that cedar area while bowhunting. I was hunting a private tract a few concessions up. One morning, I get a message from him that he'd shot a doe, so I headed over to help him out. We're dragging the deer across the cornfield, he had the map on him showing that its crown. Halfway out into the field, we see a truck tearing across the field, heading right at us. We put down the deer, get out the map and wait, up pulls the farmer, sticks his head out the window and says "I see you had some luck, I'm just out looking for my dog that run off, throw that deer in the back and I'll give you a lift to your truck." We were quite surprised to say the least, and it turned out that we got permission to hunt geese on the rest of his property, which was quite productive.
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Wow! During deer season, consistently productive areas are considered by many to be their property and they get quite possessive about it. I have, however, had a great deal of luck here in AB on both crown and private land. This year, I have gotten access to about 15 sections of land for big game hunting simply by shooting gophers. I shot gophers on numerous 1/4 sections this past year. Most of these were residential as well as agricultural and I proved I could shoot responsibly and efficiently during this season. Because I had proven my abilities and ethos, I was given permission to hunt property I had been previously denied access to. And most of that land was owned by people I had not even shot gophers for but they had watched me all spring and summer and no one had lost a cow, dog, cat, or window! I also think that access is granted more out here simply because you cannot watch your sections and if you block a remote section, rednecks here will just bust it down as they ruin the fields anyway. So you might as well just allow access in the first place.
 
Patrick Gidlet said:
There's a parcel of crown land that I used to live near, mainly swamp and a great place for deer. By all maps and satellite imagery I've looked at, the large corn field that cuts into the crown land is in fact crown land. There was a fair size island of a cedar stand kind of out in the middle of the corn, and a buddy of mine who was new to hunting had been sitting in a ground blind in that cedar area while bowhunting. I was hunting a private tract a few concessions up. One morning, I get a message from him that he'd shot a doe, so I headed over to help him out. We're dragging the deer across the cornfield, he had the map on him showing that its crown. Halfway out into the field, we see a truck tearing across the field, heading right at us. We put down the deer, get out the map and wait, up pulls the farmer, sticks his head out the window and says "I see you had some luck, I'm just out looking for my dog that run off, throw that deer in the back and I'll give you a lift to your truck." We were quite surprised to say the least, and it turned out that we got permission to hunt geese on the rest of his property, which was quite productive.
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Cornfields on crown land?
 
Ontario conservation takes that approach. They actually lease out parcels to individuals from Oct 15th to Nov15th. Without a permit you are trespassing on that parcel during those dates. Their stradegy is if its leased they know who is hunting the land, and it reduces conflict between other hunters. But that said it sucks a bit, because they will always lease it to the same person without giving others a crack at it.
rookie wildcat said:
Wow! During deer season, consistently productive areas are considered by many to be their property and they get quite possessive about it. I have, however, had a great deal of luck here in AB on both crown and private land. This year, I have gotten access to about 15 sections of land for big game hunting simply by shooting gophers. I shot gophers on numerous 1/4 sections this past year. Most of these were residential as well as agricultural and I proved I could shoot responsibly and efficiently during this season. Because I had proven my abilities and ethos, I was given permission to hunt property I had been previously denied access to. And most of that land was owned by people I had not even shot gophers for but they had watched me all spring and summer and no one had lost a cow, dog, cat, or window! I also think that access is granted more out here simply because you cannot watch your sections and if you block a remote section, rednecks here will just bust it down as they ruin the fields anyway. So you might as well just allow access in the first place.
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