Smallest light weight NR .22lr for a pack rifle?

I've got a badger and a 10/22 td that I've heavily customized. the badger i just can't seem to fet my head behind or it's resusing to shoot straight out of spite.

i think wire stock survival rifles are really a personal preference thing, you have to find one that points for you.

the takedown i have down to 4.25 lbs with two unloaded mags(one in the stock) and a 2.5x optic. without the mag and the optic it's about 3.5 which is pretty darn good for a semi auto. none of this carbin fiber fanciness either, just a short, light barrel and a backpacker stock.
 
uAJollyRogering said:
I've got a badger and a 10/22 td that I've heavily customized. the badger i just can't seem to fet my head behind or it's resusing to shoot straight out of spite.

i think wire stock survival rifles are really a personal preference thing, you have to find one that points for you.

the takedown i have down to 4.25 lbs with two unloaded mags(one in the stock) and a 2.5x optic. without the mag and the optic it's about 3.5 which is pretty darn good for a semi auto. none of this carbin fiber fanciness either, just a short, light barrel and a backpacker stock.
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I clamped the wire stock of my badger into a large padded vice as close as possible to where it attaches to the receiver and then bent the stock down and changed the angle so that when it's folded in half it's as compact as possible and as and added bonus the dropped wire stock made the cheek weld better for the stock sights.
 
Can-down said:
I clamped the wire stock of my badger into a large padded vice as close as possible to where it attaches to the receiver and then bent the stock down and changed the angle so that when it's folded in half it's as compact as possible and as and added bonus the dropped wire stock made the cheek weld better for the stock sights.
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you have a pic? I'd be very curious to see the design. mine doesn't have the stock plastics any more because the little set screws broke, so right now it's my experiment with wierd ideas hoping to make it not suck gun.
 
uAJollyRogering said:
you have a pic? I'd be very curious to see the design. mine doesn't have the stock plastics any more because the little set screws broke, so right now it's my experiment with wierd ideas hoping to make it not suck gun.
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I'm not sure which part you are calling the "stock plastics" refers to? Is your wire stock still on the gun? Here's a stock picture of a little badger, imagine bending the stock down towards the barrel so that the package is more compact when folded, the lowering of the stock by bending the wires will also bring the receiver and peep sight up higher when you shoulder the gun and make it easier to get your face and eyes inline with the sights.

It might be possible to do it without clamping the wire close to the receiver but I didn't want to stress out the connection interface and had a wide padded vice handy that allowed me to take the stress off the connection point and then simply bend the wire stock by hand.

I'm not sure why Chiappa doesn't bend the stock more from the factory as it's an easy improvement.

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I had a bad experience with a Charter Arms AR7 that soured me on them. OK, lots of bad experiences, like mags that would drop out if you looked at the release lever too hard, a barrel that would lead up in a dozen shots, accuracy that made a barn door feel safe, and it was just plain awkward and bulky to carry around. Saved money for a long time for that one. Happy day when it was sold!
I think the Isrealis did the right thing, ditching the stock-as-a-container concept, and providing a very basic wire frame stock for it.

These days, If I were shopping for a light weight grouse gun to carry in addition to a hunting rifle, I think I'd go for something like the TC Hot Shot or a Cricket. Another option might be to put a real stock on a Mares leg and have a very short 'trapper carbine' style rifle.

I've known Brian Hammond for a couple dozen years, and usually carry a Game Getter and an small hand full of cartridges and sized slugs for it in my hunting kit. A lot less hassle than packing two guns, since we can't be trusted with a handgun in the woods.
 
No one has yet mentioned the Rossi Ranch Hand or Henry Mare's Leg... both available in 22lr, tube fed repeater. Down side is the mass of 4lbs and neither have yet taken my suggestion and offer a wire stock that collapses into the butt.
 
New Camper said:
No one has yet mentioned the Rossi Ranch Hand or Henry Mare's Leg... both available in 22lr, tube fed repeater. Down side is the mass of 4lbs and neither have yet taken my suggestion and offer a wire stock that collapses into the butt.
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I've never heard of a rossi ranch hand .22lr but the Henry's are nice and easy to shoot accurately with just a cheek weld on the short stock since the recoil is so low.
 
I've got a Chiappa Badger with a few mods. Can't think of a better rifle for what you're describing. I handled an AR7 while shopping and really preferred the size and feel of the badger. AR7 is semi-auto of course but for the application it would be used in I think the Badger is a stronger choice. Just IMO of course.
 
JW85 said:
I've got a Chiappa Badger with a few mods. Can't think of a better rifle for what you're describing. I handled an AR7 while shopping and really preferred the size and feel of the badger. AR7 is semi-auto of course but for the application it would be used in I think the Badger is a stronger choice. Just IMO of course.
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From my experience you need the full mag of an ar7 to hit the target lol.
Minute of barndoor indeed, at least the 3 different ar7's that I tried/owned so not that I didn't try :)
 
bertn said:
From my experience you need the full mag of an ar7 to hit the target lol.
Minute of barndoor indeed, at least the 3 different ar7's that I tried/owned so not that I didn't try :)
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I should add too that I'm left handed and the AR7 is not symmetrical relative to the barrel axis, might have affected how it felt.

The stock sights on the badger are not very good IMO. But with a red dot it shoots quite accurately.
 
JW85 said:
I should add too that I'm left handed and the AR7 is not symmetrical relative to the barrel axis, might have affected how it felt.

The stock sights on the badger are not very good IMO. But with a red dot it shoots quite accurately.
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I agree the sights are pretty basic and made of plastic. But they actually work well with a bit of white nail polish or paint on the front sight. The bright contrast made a huge difference for me picking up the front sight through the aperture.

That said, mine currently has a red dot on it for the improved sighting ability that you mention.
 
Scorpio EM332A, lightweight plastic stock, easy to shoulder and good smooth action. Tenda has them for $199 currently, I got mine for $169 when they had them on sale. I put hundreds of rounds through mine and is reliable and easy to shoot.

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I really like the little badger and customized mine with carbon fibre 3D printed parts such as new front sights, foregrip and rear grip. I also machined an adapter to use a skinner peep sight. This thing is way more solid than the oem plastic. Made a knob to allow quick field takedown to two pieces when I need that extra level of compactness.

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Little badger. If you don't like the Wire stock. Little Badger Deluxe with the wood stock. It's literally the same size, and doesn't way that much more. Can't ask for a cheaper, better back pack, or hiking gun.
 
been mulling over the various light weight "youth" models myself and made my decision today at the local gunshop
I picked up a Savage Rascal in black synthetic though the factory stock will be replaced with something custom as soon as I get around to it.
The peep sights are a nice touch and the bolt seems nice and smooth on mine and I could find no out of the box faults at the gun counter so it followed me home along with the rascal 2 pc scope mount bases. I might modify those to lower the slot the screws are in so the sights can be used with the bases on but for now I will mount a bushnell engage 2-7 x 32 in a set of vortex rings. I'll sight it in over the next few days and might take it with me to the farm I am doing predator control at to see how lethal it is hehehe
Will make an excellent bird and bunny rifle and compact/light enough to strap to the day pack.
 
45ACPKING said:
been mulling over the various light weight "youth" models myself and made my decision today at the local gunshop
I picked up a Savage Rascal in black synthetic though the factory stock will be replaced with something custom as soon as I get around to it.
The peep sights are a nice touch and the bolt seems nice and smooth on mine and I could find no out of the box faults at the gun counter so it followed me home along with the rascal 2 pc scope mount bases. I might modify those to lower the slot the screws are in so the sights can be used with the bases on but for now I will mount a bushnell engage 2-7 x 32 in a set of vortex rings. I'll sight it in over the next few days and might take it with me to the farm I am doing predator control at to see how lethal it is hehehe
Will make an excellent bird and bunny rifle and compact/light enough to strap to the day pack.
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Pls keep us updated on your custom stock design.
I have a Rascal in stock configuration and like it, accurate little thing.
 
I picked up a little badger this spring in 17 HMR on an impulse. I have to say that it’s really grown on me, slides perfectly in the front on my pack for on the trail. And I’m a fan of the cartridge in general. Extremely handy little rifle.

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